Looking For A Deeper, Wetter Look?

Dispatch

Dispatch

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I just used Chemical Guys Jetseal 109 (two coats), and then Chemical Guys 50/50, Pure Concoure paste wax (one coat), on two brand new Harley Davidson motorcycles applied by hand (sixteen hours spent on each bike).
Although it has left an amazing shine, is there anything else I can do to get an even deeper, wetter look?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Yes get a good glaze like Poorboys Black Hole or White Diamond to apply before you apply the LSP...I would also suggest that you use a sealant before the wax those both add POP and wettness
 
Beemerboy said:
Yes get a good glaze like Poorboys Black Hole or White Diamond to apply before you apply the LSP...I would also suggest that you use a sealant before the wax those both add POP and wettness
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I already did that.
The Jetseal is the sealant and then the 50/50 wax.
 
Dispatch said:
I already did that.
The Jetseal is the sealant and then the 50/50 wax.
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Missed that part, so the best way to get that added pop to the paint, is the next time you do a full correction. Before applying the JS lay down the glaze then seal and wax
 
I find Blackfire Wet Diamonds Sealant leaves a very crisp, deep refelctive shine I am addicted to. Ther prep work needs to be done properly to extract that next level of shine. I don't know anything about the clear on Harleys but you need to polish the clear to remove all the defects so you get the best optically clear surface prior to applying your sealant/wax.
 
I asked at Chemical Guys what to do before I placed my last order but they forgot to mention to do a glaze first. :wall
 
Dispatch said:
I asked at Chemical Guys what to do before I placed my last order but they forgot to mention to do a glaze first. :wall
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There is no right or wrong answer, just personal preference. This is why Autopia Car Care carries such a diverse line of products, because we believe everybody has a right to be right!
 
The products you used are both pure protectants. by pure, I mean that they will not clean or remove and defects from the paint. Even tho the bikes are new, they most likely still have some bonded contamination and/or swirls and scratches. They have most likely been washed or wiped down improperly at the dealership. I would suggest a proper washing first. Then I would check to see if there is above surface contamination by using the baggie test. If so then claying will be required. Next I would get a good look at the paint in direct sunlight or very good lighting. If you notice swirls and scratches then polishing or compounding followed by polishing will be required. Most of that deep wet look in paint comes from it being properly polished....the sealant/wax is only a small percentage of the final look.
 
Dr Oldz said:
The products you used are both pure protectants. by pure, I mean that they will not clean or remove and defects from the paint. Even tho the bikes are new, they most likely still have some bonded contamination and/or swirls and scratches. They have most likely been washed or wiped down improperly at the dealership. I would suggest a proper washing first. Then I would check to see if there is above surface contamination by using the baggie test. If so then claying will be required. Next I would get a good look at the paint in direct sunlight or very good lighting. If you notice swirls and scratches then polishing or compounding followed by polishing will be required. Most of that deep wet look in paint comes from it being properly polished....the sealant/wax is only a small percentage of the final look.
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I don't think it matters much now being I already did all that I have.
It is a flawless mirror shine, I just wondered if I could make it even better, I suppose not.
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To the OP, I recommend a correction step ( Clay, Compound/Polish ) before any Glaze, Sealant and Wax step to get the max out of these products.
 
Dispatch said:
I don't think it matters much now being I already did all that I have.
It is a flawless mirror shine, I just wondered if I could make it even better, I suppose not.
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If the paint is flawless we can assume, for the most part, that the gloss of the paint is maximized. At this point different waxes, sealants, glazes or combinations of the above are going to yield differences in gloss, shine, and wetness.

If you are not happy with the appearance of the paint or feel like you are leaving something on the table then I would recommend trying a different product or combination. To my eyes, nothing beats the liquid wet shine of BLACKFIRE's Fire over Ice which is a combination of Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection and Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Wax.

BLACKFIRE Wet-Ice over Fire Kit
 
Haven't tried Wet-Ice over Fire but I'm a major fan of BF Crystal Seal. One thing for sure - if you care about ease of application, BFCS cannot be beat. With two coats, glosses up white & silver which is very hard to do. Outstanding product.
 
I can only use what I have that I bought from Chemical Guys, mentioned above.
I can't do a whole nother polishing job.
Just looking for an add-on to what I did already.
 
Dispatch said:
I can only use what I have that I bought from Chemical Guys, mentioned above.
I can't do a whole nother polishing job.
Just looking for an add-on to what I did already.
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You are probably maxed out on looks without further polishing. Sorry there is no magic bullet.
 
You might try my method: Wash and dry of course. Wipe down again with Black Fire Waterless wash,a coat of Black Fire Gloss Enhancing polish, a coat of Black Fire Crystal Seal. One more tip: I use Dodo juice Red Tropical Mist once a month after wiping it down with Waterless Wash.
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