Liquid Glass, why not?

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scooterguitar

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Ok, I am not using it, nor do I plan to, but am simply wondering why no one really seems to use it. Everything I have ever researched on it says it is about the strongest/durable long lasting product out there, but looks are mediocre. My question is, I understand the looks thing, but lots of people are obsessed with durability which I understand, so why don't more people use it sinc eit is bulletproof so to speak?

Just thinking out loud here.
 
probably because its OTC - everyone is infatuated with products that have to be ordered. You could always top it with a nuba and get that shine that the product its self doesn't give.
 
I used LG way back when, and it is decent, but nothing stellar. It is based from a pretty old school (old technology) silicone polymer formulation, and it has plenty of cleaners. Looks are fair, very glassy, and durability was never anything great for me either (2-3 months at best). All in all, I found it better than most OTC stuff back then, but there are certainly much better products today for what a can of LG sells for...



Finish First and LG are VERY similar products.
 
No, IMO, I found the durability (and protection) to be pretty lacking. I think like most cleaner sealants (i.e. AIO, LG, DG 101, etc), the durability isn't going to be that great. At least I never found it to be that good....
 
I use it, and I like it. I have, by no means, tried all the LSPs out there, but I have put 4 applications on the car since April, and the car beads very nicely. You can put it on for protection once a month, and put some wax on it every 2 weeks for looks. That's what I planned on doing, but it never happened.
 
I tried it and I love it :getdown the only thing is that you need 2 coats. with 2-3 coats it looks great on dark cars. on black nothing looks better to me than LG. nuff said! :2thumbs: :getdown
 
When you have werkstatt, klasse, zaino and other sealers, LG just doesn't cut it

if it has cleaners in it like AIO, that means you cannot layer it which is what I love to do
 
Coupe said:
There are VERY little cleaners in LG and no abbrasives.



http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=73080&highlight=truth+liquid+glass
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The thread you link to has a link to an MSDS sheet (http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=12003001). The MSDS sheet shows 12% amorphous silica (an abrasive), and 25% Stoddard solvent. What is Stoddard solvent?
Stoddard solvent is a colorless, flammable liquid that smells and tastes like kerosene. It will turn into a vapor at temperatures of 150–200 °C.



Stoddard solvent is a petroleum mixture that is also known as dry cleaning safety solvent, petroleum solvent, and varnoline; its registered trade names are Texsolve S® and Varsol 1®. It is a chemical mixture that is similar to white spirits.



Stoddard solvent is used as a paint thinner; in some types of photocopier toners, printing inks, and adhesives; as a dry cleaning solvent; and as a general cleaner and degreaser.(Reference: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts79.html)
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IMO, that's abrasives and cleaners. That doesn't make Liquid Glass a "bad thing", but it is what it is.



Tort
 
TortoiseAWD- Remember that the presence of "abrasives" and "cleaning solvents" doesn't necessarily mean a product will be functionally abrasive or have any significant cleaning ability ;)



Not experienced with the LG (other than seeing how well it works under Souveran for Chuck Mallett), but note that Meg's #7 contains "abrasives" (clays) yet it's functionally nonabrasive. IHG contains a lot of Stoddard Solvent yet it has minimal cleaning ability.



Heh heh, I'm not :argue just stirring the pot a bit as this stuff interests me on a purely intellectual-curiosity level :D
 
I like and used LG until recently. I applied it with a PC and looked great and lasted a long time. However, in the spring I noticed ants all over my car but not on my wife's car on which I use NXT. So, I immedlately started using NXT on my car and the ants were no longer a problem. Go figure. I'm going to give LG another try in the fall when I put the winter coat on and will see if the ants come back.
 
Accumulator said:
TortoiseAWD- Remember that the presence of "abrasives" and "cleaning solvents" doesn't necessarily mean a product will be functionally abrasive or have any significant cleaning ability ;)
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True . . . however, while it may not be functionally abrasive with regards to paint, I would hazard that at that level of solvent and diatomaceous earth, it cleans well enough to remove previous layers of (some) other LSPs, itself, road grime, tar, etc.



Knowing LG's solvent level, I wouldn't use it as a topper, or over a glaze, nor would I choose it as a product to try to layer. Like I said, I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing at all; however, it puts LG in a particular spot in my toolbox, if you take my meaning.



Tort
 
TortoiseAWD said:
True . . . however, while it may not be functionally abrasive with regards to paint, I would hazard that at that level of solvent and diatomaceous earth, it cleans well enough to remove previous layers of (some) other LSPs, itself, road grime, tar, etc.



Knowing LG's solvent level, I wouldn't use it as a topper, or over a glaze, nor would I choose it as a product to try to layer. Like I said, I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing at all; however, it puts LG in a particular spot in my toolbox, if you take my meaning.



Tort
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Ditto, couldn't agree more...



It's no longer in my toolbox though, because in my eyes, there are products that do what LG does, but better, and cheaper...



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Tort- Yeah, good point- functionally nonabrasive on paint is different from behaving that way with regard to previously applied products.



And yeah, I know exactly what you mean about products whose sorta-narrow range of optimal applications leaves them on the back of the shelf.



On a sorta similar note (referring back to SVR's post about layering), it *does* sometimes surprises me which products can be layered though. Autoglym's SRP has abrasives and cleaners that are fairly potent, but (if I do it right) I can still layer it, getting can't-ignore increases in durability/etc. :nixweiss So when people say they layer LG (and I was thinking about the older version), I'm not too quick to say they're full of it.
 
TigerMike said:
Ditto, couldn't agree more...



It's no longer in my toolbox though, because in my eyes, there are products that do what LG does, but better, and cheaper...



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What are such products? Klasse AIO? Jeff Werkstatt? Detailer's Paradise Prima?
 
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