light defects/scratches

Accumulator said:
I'd get the Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital with the long cord option.
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Griots has a new version of their polisher with some minor changes, but no change to the motor etc that make the current model powerful. You should be able to get one with the short cord (then add a 12' 16 guage[recommended by Griots], 2 way extension from HD and permanently tape it to the polisher) for anywhere from $80-100. Watch Amazon Gold Box Deals, Bjs.com and AG.
 
Anyone used or heard anything good about the Griots machine polish line 1-4?
Are they any good?
I have minor swirls and a few scratches on the back hatch of my Kia Soul ( black )


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marinesoup- Let me qualify this by saying the following:

I haven't tried the GG MPs for a while, and they might have been reformulated. I've never used MP4, which, IIRC, is a mix of MP3 and a LSP. My opinions are based on my use of MP1, MP2, and MP3, including IIRC, versions 1.0 through 3.0. So maybe things are different now (never saw any notice of a reformulation though), and/or maybe MP4 is what you're looking for.

All that said, I *do not* like these products. Not all that effective nor user-friendly. IMO you'd be *MUCH* better off buying a bottle of HD Polish.
 
Thx Accumulator, I have MP2 and MP4 here already. I'll try the MP4 on the swirls and and spiders maybe with an orange pad and see what the results are.
I've been reading a lot about HD but is it good for minor scratches also?


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marinesoup- Though I sure haven't done a proper comparison, I'd expect the HD Polish (with the right pad) to be along the lines of MP2, only finishing out at least as well as MP3. The HD Polish *is* abrasive enough to handle some minor correction, at least on most paints (i.e., maybe not so much on really hard ones).

What with its (?presumed?) concealing ability, the MP4 just might give you what you're after. IF not, try the MP2 first and follow up with the MP4.

One time I *did* really appreciate MP3 was on a fresh repaint that was just too soft for anything else to finish out OK on. (Once it cured for a few months it got significantly harder.)
 
Thanks for your insight.
I'll still start with MP4 to see what results I get, then move back to MP2 if I see no noticeable change.
I at least have to give them a try for now. By the sounds of it I don't think I need to worry too much about it being too aggressive.



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One thing I would change about the wash process it the use of a microfiber wash mitt. The goal of a microfiber product is to grab and cling, so when washing why would you ever want to use this. You take the mitt and dunk it in your wash bucket expecting it to release the contaminates but guess what...it didn't! I strictly use a sheep skin (naturally releases dirt) when washing a vehicle to ensure no micro marring occurs. I'm surprised at how many people overlook one vital process. Can you clay when you wash the car? Yes, but make sure the car is completely clean if if you choose to clay after washed and still wet I would recommend using a clay mitt. It is just that, a rubberized mitt that acts a clay and will save you a massive amount of work and time, while using the wash soap as a lubricant. As for the compound and polish process, test a low out of sight spot such as the passengers side lower rear bumper. If something goes wrong, no one will look here. Always start least aggressive and work your way up as needed. Start with a polish and if that does not correct the area the step up with either a more aggressive polish or to a compound. Try to stay clear of products that are called "swirl removers," since most are silicone or acrylic based products that act as fillers. In this case you are masking and not correcting the affected area. Hope that helps some and I would definitely go for a DA.
 
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I haven't tried the mitt but do clay with CB clay lube. I'd like to try the mitt especially if it saves time. I can't spend too much time bent over anymore.
I use the 2 bucket method with grit guards and haven't had a problem so far as I thoroughly rinse the MF pad after doing each section.
I have the 7424.
Thanks for sharing!



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marinesoup- I'm absolutely confident that the MP4 won't be too aggressive and confidence is also high that the MP2 won't be too harsh either. FAR more likely that you'll wish the MP2 had more cut.
 
Well we finally had good enough weather up here to get out the 7424.
I tried the Griots MP 2 with a yellow pad and I have to say that the product is garbage IMO! Not only did it not remove swirl marks and tiny surface scratches, it didn't even remove spider marks!
I was so disappointed in this product and what it claims to do do. Also trying to remove the product was a nightmare requiring a lot of work.
I did the roof first to see how it performed and then went to the hood. After MP2 I went on to MP4 on the hood and then BF diamond polish finishing with Pete's 54.
Nice and shiny in the shade but an embarrassment in the sun for all the work I put into it. (The car was washed and clayed before also).
I need a good product that is proven to remove swirl marks and tiny scratches and is easy to remove product after.
Now I know why you don't use Griots MP anymore. I'm guessing same formula.



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marinesoup- I posted about this on the other thread. But I'm also wondering which "yellow pad" you used. I haven't used a yellow foam cutting pad since....like...forever, at least not in this century.
 
marinesoup- Ah, OK, the orange is a better choice than Yellow but it's not always aggressive enough for efficient serious correction. As I mentioned in the othe thread, I'd go with MF Cutting Disks or Meguiar's maroon foam Cutting Pads (which generally work very well for me). But that PC is gonna be a seriously limiting factor and you need to use smaller pads with it. The only way I did aggressive correction with mine was by using little 4" pads.
 
Just did some more research and the maroon pad is not recommended with my PC.
I need to find the next best thing that works with my PC. A new machine is not in the cards right now.
I was thinking of using Meguiars UC with ???
 
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