Lexol leather conditioner...

Lexol is best used for home leather goods. It was modified from original Lexol used for tack equipment (saddles, bridles etc), but I would not use it on auto leather.



There are more superior products directly for automotive leather.



Sonus works quite well. It does not add phony leather odor, but brings out natural tanning oils.



1Z Lederpflege is one very nice leather conditioner for coated leathers.



If you want leather smell, Zaino Z-10 is the one to go for. It conditions well and add a very natural leather odor.



Keep the Lexol in the house, go and get leather products for automotive leathers.



Regards,

Deanski
 
VaSuperShine said:
Lexol is very safe and a great product if used correctly, sounds like you didn't follow instructions (thread starter) and buff the product off correctly. There will be no oily feel if you buff it off correctly.
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True, I didn't buff the Lexol. I wanted to let all the product soak into the leather for a day or so for maximum softening ability. I topped it with Z10 to get the higher shine look that I like anyway.
 
Bunky said:
I think we are in agreement about water based seemed to be product to use. Leather Master recommends the same products for top coated and aniline leather -- the cleaner and protection cream. The cream description is:



Leather Protection Cream is a water based protector for all leather types except Nubuck. ...Unlike leather "conditioners", this cream will NOT make your leather shiny, sticky, or leave any type of film on the surface. ... It's natural oils, acrylic resins, and polymers protect the surface from stains and keep the hide supple.



LeatherMaster is water based yet has oils. I am just not sure what Lexol is. Lexol says it is an aqueous solution (water based) with oils too.
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yes but I think lexol use fist or something that is derived from pigs, if I am not mistaken.

however leather master the main ingredient in it is distilled water and the reset of it is oils.

try dropping a cocking oil in a pan of normal tap water and see how the oil

becomes stuck together in bubble shape.

if you are using too strong oils in a water based products then it will split in 2 half's "1 water or whatever and the rest is oils"

and becomes obvious it has allot of oils. not in the case of leather master, the bottle

does not separate the liquids inside of them.
 
I am not questioning that leather master is a nice product, but come on, touting that it is made with distilled water as the first ingredient, and then lambasting Lexol, when it likely uses the same primary component?



a. Water has to be the cheapest ingredient possible

b. You wouldn't put straight water on leather anyway, so it is the oils that are doing the work, and the water is just a carrier for the aforementioned oils

c. It is not difficult to create a suspension with oils in water, you just need a polar hydrophilic molecule, or a surfactant... which is how many cleaners work. (hopefully this is not how they are doing it with the leather conditioners)



And saying using 'too strong oils' again, there are some oils that are completely water soluble (most of the time I've seen them used for lubricating cooling systems to extend pump life). Most are not, but this has nothing to do with relative 'strengths' of oils. In fact, what do you even mean by how strong an oil is? Longer carbon chain is stronger? Shorter carbon chain is stronger? More branches is stronger, or how about fewer? What about hydroxyl groups on the end, or other functional groups? Stronger or weaker?



Yes, most oils naturally separate from water. Given a long enough period of time, almost any true emulsion will separate.



Incidentally, the Lexol interview linked earlier specifies synthetic sperm whale oil as the primary oil used in manufacture, which in fact is an ester and not a typical oil.



Again, leather masters is probably a very nice product, at the price one would hope it is, but saying Lexol is inferior based on simplistic examples and half baked chemistry I feel is a bit much. More useful would be citing your experiences, with a bottle of Lexol that did separate, or went rancid, or just didn't perform the way you thought it should, and saying why. Or at least providing some substantiating evidence of why it is an inferior product, otherwise it is an unsupported opinion.



Personally I don't like the smell of Lexol, that is enough for me.
 
elsdragon314 said:
I am not questioning that leather master is a nice product, but come on, touting that it is made with distilled water as the first ingredient, and then lambasting Lexol, when it likely uses the same primary component?



a. Water has to be the cheapest ingredient possible

b. You wouldn't put straight water on leather anyway, so it is the oils that are doing the work, and the water is just a carrier for the aforementioned oils

c. It is not difficult to create a suspension with oils in water, you just need a polar hydrophilic molecule, or a surfactant... which is how many cleaners work. (hopefully this is not how they are doing it with the leather conditioners)



And saying using 'too strong oils' again, there are some oils that are completely water soluble (most of the time I've seen them used for lubricating cooling systems to extend pump life). Most are not, but this has nothing to do with relative 'strengths' of oils. In fact, what do you even mean by how strong an oil is? Longer carbon chain is stronger? Shorter carbon chain is stronger? More branches is stronger, or how about fewer? What about hydroxyl groups on the end, or other functional groups? Stronger or weaker?



Yes, most oils naturally separate from water. Given a long enough period of time, almost any true emulsion will separate.



Incidentally, the Lexol interview linked earlier specifies synthetic sperm whale oil as the primary oil used in manufacture, which in fact is an ester and not a typical oil.



Again, leather masters is probably a very nice product, at the price one would hope it is, but saying Lexol is inferior based on simplistic examples and half baked chemistry I feel is a bit much. More useful would be citing your experiences, with a bottle of Lexol that did separate, or went rancid, or just didn't perform the way you thought it should, and saying why. Or at least providing some substantiating evidence of why it is an inferior product, otherwise it is an unsupported opinion.



Personally I don't like the smell of Lexol, that is enough for me.
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Not down grading your lexol, it is just not for me. I am no chemist nor leather professional,

all I care about is products that truly work, not hyped stuff. The best advice for you

is that pay a visit to detailing world.UK and type in leather care or whatever term has

to do with leather, and read the professional opinion from a leather professional

that almost post in every leather topic. and read how water is the safest route for leather

cleaning and protection, not only that good product need only 2 to 3 applications per year.



btw the whale thing they claim, reminded of sneak oil sales men. :D
 
Harry Houdini said:
you sure are.

I quit using those cheap once "including leatherque stuff"

Leather Master is the safest most luxurious leather care money can buy

and it is water based an in no way will harm the leather.

anyone who knows leather will tell you get water based products.

anyhow, top of the line sells the product but I bought it directly from leather master,

the auto package comes with 2 bottles and sponge and a towel.

1 of the bottle is an alcohol based cleaner! yes alcohol that cleans the leather from

everything on it, and the second one is conditioner and protector.



expensive but you will know when it wares out and you only need 3 applications per year!
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Inspired, I will try this out. I have always used the Lexol with good results, but I always love trying out new stuff.
 
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