Leather Cleaner recommend
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Quality Leather
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I understand what you are saying. AVS does a master thread for stuff like that. It allows the manufacturers to discuss their products. This gives manufacturers the chance to give and receive feedback without the need for promotion.
Radicalrev
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so what is generally better for softer leathers (Lexus), leather masters or leatherique?
David Fermani
Forza Auto Salon
EPIC thread :bump:
Be prepared to be utterly confused, educated & amazed after reading this one!!
Be prepared to be utterly confused, educated & amazed after reading this one!!
togwt
The Old Grey Whistle Test
David Fermani said:
I guess two out of three ain't bad (shame the missing one is education)
autoaesthetica
New member
On the subject of leather, and threads in question it simply blows my mind the number of company representatives that basically post information they feel is "correct" but also passively inserting their company product lines.
..and then it's all balled up and is regurgitated by a few people who are basically copying and pasting with no citing or objective information from any manufacturer on the brand in question.
3 or so different "firestarter" takes on leather care that all disagree basically with each other on the product or type of product to use and its regular care...
I can't imagine this is helpful for those who want a universally agreed upon approach to caring for customer and personal leather in their vehicles....
..and then it's all balled up and is regurgitated by a few people who are basically copying and pasting with no citing or objective information from any manufacturer on the brand in question.
3 or so different "firestarter" takes on leather care that all disagree basically with each other on the product or type of product to use and its regular care...
I can't imagine this is helpful for those who want a universally agreed upon approach to caring for customer and personal leather in their vehicles....
togwt
The Old Grey Whistle Test
I have always thought that the more facts and information you have at hand the easier it is to judge what information you are being given. After all, how can you fully understand and properly use any product unless you have all the facts? In the final analysis; it’s your vehicle, your hard earned money and your choice.
Commercialism brings with it concerns of honesty and true representation. In other words, it’s difficult to know what is true when someone is motivated by income, i.e. directly targeted at product sales, more so than an unbiased opinion. One of the advantages of being independent and not having to answer to shareholders
Choose carefully whose advice you listen to, and more importantly what advice you act upon. The misinformation and myths that are so prevalent in the detail industry is the reason that detailers need to do research on their own. Treat all marketing claims as being just biased marketing claims and if you're lucky they will be based on truth and the company will operate ethically.
I would strongly suggest that you verify any information that I or anyone else shares with you. It is the individual’s responsibility to confirm the information supplied and apply it to their situation.
Recommended Products
In the interest of full disclosure, I am in no way affiliated with, employed by, have any vested interest, or in any way receive compensation from the sale or distribution of any of the product lines reviewed or the company that manufactures or markets it. No endorsement of companies or their products mentioned is intended, nor is criticism implied of similar companies or their products if they are omitted.
I purchase all the products I use, so the endorsement is entirely personal and commercially unbiased, the product recommendation is based on “Does exactly what it says on the box” and it suits my detailing goals. I have tested the products mentioned and have found that they will perform the task more than adequately using the methodology and tools cited, which may or may not be the same as those recommended by the manufacturer.
"A Brief History of Leather" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137800-brief-history-leather.html#post1463189
"Leather Tanning Process" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137341-leather-tanning-process.html#post1455796
"Leather Fat Liquoring and Conditioning" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...r-fat-liquoring-conditioning.html#post1462908
“Leather Restoration / Renovation” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopi...ather-restoration-renovation.html#post1479003
“Types of Leather Used in Automobiles” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopi...pes-leather-used-automobiles.html#post1474058
“Leather Surface Identification” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...tery;-surface-identification.html#post1451654
"Various Leather Surface Conditions and Correction" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...us-leather-surface-conditions-correction.html
"Leather care products" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/138006-leather-care-products.html#post1465895
"Removing Stains from Leather" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/138225-removing-stains-leather.html#post1468879
“Proper Finished Leather Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/136421-proper-finished-leather-cleaning-care.html
"Leather Conditioning" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137157-leather-conditioning.html#post1454835
"Using Oil-based Leather Care Products" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...-based-leather-care-products.html#post1450942
“Aniline Leather; Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137167-aniline-leather;-cleaning-care.html#post1455011
“Perforated (Nappa) Leather; Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...nappa-leather;-cleaning-care.html#post1455017
“Alcantara Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137169-alcantara%AE-cleaning-care.html#post1455020
Commercialism brings with it concerns of honesty and true representation. In other words, it’s difficult to know what is true when someone is motivated by income, i.e. directly targeted at product sales, more so than an unbiased opinion. One of the advantages of being independent and not having to answer to shareholders
Choose carefully whose advice you listen to, and more importantly what advice you act upon. The misinformation and myths that are so prevalent in the detail industry is the reason that detailers need to do research on their own. Treat all marketing claims as being just biased marketing claims and if you're lucky they will be based on truth and the company will operate ethically.
I would strongly suggest that you verify any information that I or anyone else shares with you. It is the individual’s responsibility to confirm the information supplied and apply it to their situation.
Recommended Products
In the interest of full disclosure, I am in no way affiliated with, employed by, have any vested interest, or in any way receive compensation from the sale or distribution of any of the product lines reviewed or the company that manufactures or markets it. No endorsement of companies or their products mentioned is intended, nor is criticism implied of similar companies or their products if they are omitted.
I purchase all the products I use, so the endorsement is entirely personal and commercially unbiased, the product recommendation is based on “Does exactly what it says on the box” and it suits my detailing goals. I have tested the products mentioned and have found that they will perform the task more than adequately using the methodology and tools cited, which may or may not be the same as those recommended by the manufacturer.
"A Brief History of Leather" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137800-brief-history-leather.html#post1463189
"Leather Tanning Process" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137341-leather-tanning-process.html#post1455796
"Leather Fat Liquoring and Conditioning" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...r-fat-liquoring-conditioning.html#post1462908
“Leather Restoration / Renovation” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopi...ather-restoration-renovation.html#post1479003
“Types of Leather Used in Automobiles” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/autopi...pes-leather-used-automobiles.html#post1474058
“Leather Surface Identification” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...tery;-surface-identification.html#post1451654
"Various Leather Surface Conditions and Correction" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...us-leather-surface-conditions-correction.html
"Leather care products" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/138006-leather-care-products.html#post1465895
"Removing Stains from Leather" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/138225-removing-stains-leather.html#post1468879
“Proper Finished Leather Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/136421-proper-finished-leather-cleaning-care.html
"Leather Conditioning" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137157-leather-conditioning.html#post1454835
"Using Oil-based Leather Care Products" - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...-based-leather-care-products.html#post1450942
“Aniline Leather; Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137167-aniline-leather;-cleaning-care.html#post1455011
“Perforated (Nappa) Leather; Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-...nappa-leather;-cleaning-care.html#post1455017
“Alcantara Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/137169-alcantara%AE-cleaning-care.html#post1455020
Accumulator
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Radicalrev said:
You really gonna do the Leatherique process?
I bought the stuff and ended up shipping it to a fellow Autopia after it just sat on the shelf for ages.
Really...how involved do you want to get? The Leatherique process isn't something you're gonna do in a couple hours on a Saturday afternoon.
I'm currently a bit of a kick with the Leathe Doctor stuff from Roger Koh. I do like it, but it too is a kinda involved system.
The LeatherMasters stuff is simple and it's a nice step up from the usual OTC stuff.
I am a bit tad confused on the leather masters stuff and don't know which one I should be ordering- they have their protection cream and than the leather vital(or something along those lines)
If someone can point out the differences, it would be great. I heard their strong cleaner is good?
If someone can point out the differences, it would be great. I heard their strong cleaner is good?
togwt
The Old Grey Whistle Test
Three very simple steps-
1. For stubborn dirt use Leather Master™ Strong Cleaner (can be diluted for ‘normal’ use)
2. Leather Master™ - Protection Cream (a Scotchgard™ type product specifically formulated for lather)
3. Leather Master™ Soft Touch this product is NOT a conditioner per se but is used to restore the softness to hard finished leather
Detailers Domain sell a similar kit
Always keep in mind that you’re dealing with the finished coating on the leather and not with the leather hide itself
An extract from “Proper Finished Leather Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-d...ning-care.html
1. For stubborn dirt use Leather Master™ Strong Cleaner (can be diluted for ‘normal’ use)
2. Leather Master™ - Protection Cream (a Scotchgard™ type product specifically formulated for lather)
3. Leather Master™ Soft Touch this product is NOT a conditioner per se but is used to restore the softness to hard finished leather
Detailers Domain sell a similar kit
Always keep in mind that you’re dealing with the finished coating on the leather and not with the leather hide itself
An extract from “Proper Finished Leather Cleaning and Care” - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-d...ning-care.html
tssdetailing
New member
Striker said:
I used to have a 2000 WS6. I loved the finish that the Leatherique Tiwns did to it. I'm not a fan of leather masters at all. I would suggest Adams Leather/interior cleaner followed up with their conditioner to top it off-it will look kinda glossy, so buff it down with a MF for a nice satin finish. here is 99 bird with gray interior I did last summer with the Adams products:
EngineBuilder
New member
THanks for the great info. I also had some stains on my leather seats that I could not get off. Woolite helped a lot.
tssdetailing
New member
Striker said:
Very matte finish, but deep/dark on my 2000 (black interior)
Shane.belzers
New member
So i came across this thread searching for a leather cleaner. Using out APC right now diluted down pretty good. But its a High Ph APC and after skimming a bit im gathering thats probably not good for leather? I skimmed a bit but the arguing back and forth about woolite tired me out so im going to post now.
Aside from the leather masters cleaner is there any other products, maybe commercial or that i can buy larger volumes of? One liter of the LM cleaner would get me like not even a week lol.
Aside from the leather masters cleaner is there any other products, maybe commercial or that i can buy larger volumes of? One liter of the LM cleaner would get me like not even a week lol.
Accumulator
Well-known member
Shane.belzers said:
Can't help with the cost-effective product, but regarding the ph...yeah, Roger Koh as pretty much convinced me that the more acidic cleaners are generally the way to go.
Oh...you *sure* that a big bottle of LeatherMasters "Strong" cleaner wouldn't last very long? That stuff's fairly potent and can be diluted. I probably use it more than anything else when I'm not using Roger's stuff.
Shane.belzers
New member
Whats the dilution on it. Im also looking at the lexol cleaner as well seems to be a tad mild for some...
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Accumulator
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Shane.belzers said:
Beas me :nixweiss This'll sound terrible, but when I need it diluted I adjust the potency in a *VERY* slap-dash manner
Eh, maybe that's why I'd rather reach for the stuff from Leather Doctor. Note that I hardly ever need to really *clean* my leather, probably quite different from your situation. But I can say that the LeatherMasters Strong is pretty potent stuff.I'm *NOT* impressed with Lexol, and that goes for their cleaner too. When I can get by with something that mild I just use my Griot's Interior Cleaner or an Interior QD or even plain water. Next step up is the Leather Doctor Cleaner (acidic, in the ?3.7? range maybe, I forget the exact ph) and I only use something like the LeatherMasters Cleaner (or Leather Doctor Prep 7.7) if I have something pretty dirty to deal with.
I only bought the LeatherMasters Strong because it worked out a lot cheaper than their milder stuff when I considered I could dilute it (thanks to somebody here who suggested that) and I found it on sale.
Shane.belzers
New member
Thanks, since lexol is cheap and readily available im going to get a spray bottle from walmart and see how it does on various conditions of leather we see throughout the week. For me since its for work its always kind of a pain when i have to explain that i need to order chemicals online then get the ok to get the CC to use then to keep doing that for a product here and there sucks, where as we have accounts set up with say our distributor or even 3D now so i can order what i need and our accounts pay able gets the bill and takes care of it...