Latest Acquisition: Meguiar's M101

C. Charles Hahn said:
Wow... that looks quite impressive, Bryan. Can't wait to see some better shots of the result.



Thanks Charlie! Forecast for tomorrow

is sunny, so should be good pic day.









darkonion said:
That's really awesome. Just curious, how many passes with M101 did you make to get to that level of correction??



Less then with 105. :) as usual so many factors, depth of defects, hardness of clear coat.... we are not using 101 on its own. Initial prime and then adding either 105 or 300 as needed. Then 101 as boaster per Kevin.







Evo 3d
 
Here's one I did earlier in the day:



This '09 Expedition is fresh off the dealer lot and came in for an Opti-Coat application. The paint was absolutely terrible. It looks like it was run through an automatic car wash a thousand times and then someone decided to get crazy with a nasty wool pad. There were tons of deep RIDS and the whole thing should have been sanded, instead of trying to polish this mess.



After one pass with M101 and a Meg's DA MF Cutting Pad:



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I'll admit there were still some really deep scratches left over, but still a huge improvement.
 
Kevin Brown said:
Whenever I use M101, I think of this song:








That's right, I said it. :yo:​



I almost choked to death, laughing and coughing so hard when I saw this post... ROFLMFAO
 
PorscheGuy997 said:
Here's one I did earlier in the day:



This '09 Expedition is fresh off the dealer lot and came in for an Opti-Coat application. The paint was absolutely terrible. It looks like it was run through an automatic car wash a thousand times and then someone decided to get crazy with a nasty wool pad. There were tons of deep RIDS and the whole thing should have been sanded, instead of trying to polish this mess.



After one pass with M101 and a Meg's DA MF Cutting Pad:



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I'll admit there were still some really deep scratches left over, but still a huge improvement.



Great work Pimp daddy!
 
I thoroughly enjoyed working with m101. Spreading it across the microfiber pad today, to me, felt similar in consistency to old m105. I would love a gallon of the stuff in my own personal arsenal.



Thanks for the opportunity bryan!
 
smoknfastlegend



In regards to your signature quote...



"I am coming for your DA polisher:

I have killed 3 Meguiars G110v2's (all cord failures) and 2 Griots polishers (from motor destruction)."





All I can say is :dance::dance::dance:"RUPES, shoop-e-doop..!" :dance: :dance: :dance:



Ma' BIGFOOT got a 21mm stroke, and THAT my friend AIN'T no JOKE! :hat:



Coming soon to a theater near you.
 
PorscheGuy997 said:
Here's one I did earlier in the day:



This '09 Expedition is fresh off the dealer lot and came in for an Opti-Coat application. The paint was absolutely terrible. It looks like it was run through an automatic car wash a thousand times and then someone decided to get crazy with a nasty wool pad. There were tons of deep RIDS and the whole thing should have been sanded, instead of trying to polish this mess.



After one pass with M101 and a Meg's DA MF Cutting Pad:



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I'll admit there were still some really deep scratches left over, but still a huge improvement.

That's truly impressive!!



To those who've used M101 how does it compare to UNOv4?
 
smoknfastlegend said:
I thoroughly enjoyed working with m101. Spreading it across the microfiber pad today, to me, felt similar in consistency to old m105. I would love a gallon of the stuff in my own personal arsenal.



Thanks for the opportunity bryan!



As always my pleasure Joey!
 
I asked about this compound over on MOL. This was Michael Stoops reply (found here), with interesting background info:



OK, we'll try to distill down the discussions that have taken place on other forums after some folks managed to obtain this European only formula here in the USA.



This is the first product that Meguiar's actually developed outside the US. It was still created by our chemists here in Irvine, CA, but we actually shipped our lead man for the project to Europe, along with a mini lab set up, so that he could quickly respond to testing and inputs and tweak the formula as needed. Pretty cool stuff, actually.



* What is M101 designed for? Rotary buffing with a dedicated foam pad on European aftermarket (ie, body shop) paint.



* Why "European" aftermarket paint? Because, unlike factory paint which is the same whether the car is sold in Europe, North America or Asia, aftermarket paints vary in different parts of the world. It's a high solids versus low solids situation with these different paints, and that can require different compound formulations to achieve maximum results. Oh, and for the record, factory paint is vastly different from a chemistry standpoint than the paint used in a body shop. If a body shop, whether in Europe or North America, were to shoot factory paint it would virtually never cure due to a body shops inability to bake it at sufficient heat and for sufficient time. It's just not economically feasible for a body shop to have that sort of equipment.



* Why "dedicated foam pad"? While use of a wool pad is commonplace here in the US for sanding mark and swirl removal, in European body shops they almost never use wool. And rarely do they compound the entire vehicle - it's mostly spot repair following a repaint, and it's almost always with a foam pad. They also tend to run the rotary at fairly low rpm. So we've developed a dedicated foam pad to use with this compound, taking into account the cultural toward low speed rotary and anti wool bias.



* Why did we send a chemist and mini lab to Europe? Lead time, really. Imagine if we sent product over there, had it tested, then had to tweak and send a new batch across the pond, repeat, repeat, repeat? It would have taken months. And we couldn't do the testing here because the aftermarket paint used in Europe is very different from that used here, due to environmental regulations.



So basically what we have here is a product developed for a very specific type of paint system and a pretty specific work flow. That a handful of guys have imported this back to the US (it is made domestically, just like all the rest of our products) and are finding success with it using either wool or microfiber pads is interesting, to say the least. At the moment we have no solid plans to introduce this product to the US market.
 
Be interested to know how much more paint you can level/abrade away with M101 as opposed to D300 with 1 identical pass.
 
David Fermani said:
Be interested to know how much more paint you can level/abrade away with M101 as opposed to D300 with 1 identical pass.



One of the things I plan to test soon. I'm in the process of making a bracket that mounts on my DA (directly over head/shaft) that will hold 5 and 10 lb weights, taking out the variable of inconsistent downward pressure between test sections. ;)
 
RaskyR1 said:
One of the things I plan to test soon. I'm in the process of making a bracket that mounts on my DA (directly over head/shaft) that will hold 5 and 10 lb weights, taking out the variable of inconsistent downward pressure between test sections. ;)



One step closer to a "Roomba" DA polisher that runs itself :lol:
 
David Fermani said:
Sweet. Knowing how great a job your do with the documentation, it should be an awsome test.



Hope so....Should go well with my new test fixtures! Painted up some sheet pans for product testing (pads/polish/wet sanding...), one set with a high dollar HS clear, and the other set with a cheap clear. ;)



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After some wet sanding. :)

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C. Charles Hahn said:
One step closer to a "Roomba" DA polisher that runs itself :lol:



LOL! I wish! :)
 
Kevin Brown said:
smoknfastlegend



In regards to your signature quote...



"I am coming for your DA polisher:

I have killed 3 Meguiars G110v2's (all cord failures) and 2 Griots polishers (from motor destruction)."





All I can say is :dance::dance::dance:"RUPES, shoop-e-doop..!" :dance: :dance: :dance:



Ma' BIGFOOT got a 21mm stroke, and THAT my friend AIN'T no JOKE! :hat:



Coming soon to a theater near you.



kevin, i look forward to your review on the the rupes DA. i may kiss the flex goodbye...
 
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