king ranch leather question.

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stotte20

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hey guys i got a detail coming up on a ford truck with the king ranch edition leather. now what are you all using to clean and condition this leather since it is unlike most other leather. i know from doing other ones that you cant really scrub or aggatiate this leather. what methods and products do you all use.

Also i just bought leatherique cleaner and conditioner would this work good? thanks again.
 
I use my Woolite/water solution (20:1 dilution) and instead of spraying the leather, I spray a clean microfiber towel and wipe the seats clean. Leather Master's Leather Vital works great on that leather. Soaks in quickly and leaves a matte finish.
 
thanks scott the owner when he talked to me said that he took it to another detail shop and they made the seats worse. by using somthing wrong, he also says they are dirty and dry.
 
The problem that you have with the King Ranch leather is that it is an aniline style leather and so does not have the same finish on it as most other auto leather. The leather has been aniline dyed through but has no pigment coating on the surface. The nature of this leather is to absorb so this means that any regular leather cleaners will simply be absorbed into the leather without doing any cleaning and will also take any dirt further and deeper into the leather.

There are specific cleaners that have been manufactured for this type of leather and as they do not contain any surfactants they sit on the surface allowing you to clean rather than being soaked in.

It is also crucial to protect these leathers with a good quality protector to prevent staining from spillages and to help make cleaning easier.



Hope this helps

Judyb
 
judyb said:
The problem that you have with the King Ranch leather is that it is an aniline style leather and so does not have the same finish on it as most other auto leather. The leather has been aniline dyed through but has no pigment coating on the surface. The nature of this leather is to absorb so this means that any regular leather cleaners will simply be absorbed into the leather without doing any cleaning and will also take any dirt further and deeper into the leather.

There are specific cleaners that have been manufactured for this type of leather and as they do not contain any surfactants they sit on the surface allowing you to clean rather than being soaked in.

It is also crucial to protect these leathers with a good quality protector to prevent staining from spillages and to help make cleaning easier.



Hope this helps

Judyb
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Hi Judy. Its me Flash :yo:



Could you provide the name of these cleaners/conditioners to me either through this thread or PM?



Thank you



Flash :headbang:
 
no i dont have any photos i have not seen the truck yet, but i have seen this type of leather just never had to clean it before. you can see photos on google of what the leather looks like.







You have already mentioned that the other detail shop made the seats worse – dirty and dry.



Without the pictures I would guess that the “dirty” could be penetrated stains from body fluid or beverages.



The dryness is most probably made worse by alkaline cleaners and/or a combination of steam cleaning that may also removed the topcoat making it more absorbent.



So these are the likely work to be done to the leather.



1] Degrease from within the leather structure follows by rinsing suspended soiling by the wicking process – this 2 steps will take care of both surface and structure restorative cleaning.



2] Dryness has to go through a hydrating process to relax the stiff and dry leather structure and reactivate the dormant dyestuff.



3] Fatliquoring is to restore the leather softness, suppleness and strength.



4] Aniline urethane topcoat is recommended to rectify the appearance.



5] Non-stick rub resistant protector will thereafter reduce wear to the topcoat.





Roger Koh

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thanks roger, now can i ask is there certian products that you recomend for the steps that you have told us. thanks.
 
stotte20 said:
thanks roger, now can i ask is there certian products that you recomend for the steps that you have told us. thanks.
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The leather is similar to what they call "saddle leather", I would do a google search for "king ranch seat cleaning" and saddle leather as well... do not take my words as fact ... I only worked on ONE of these trucks.
 
Whilst degreasing is always an option on these leathers this will only remove stains that are oil based.

Most stains will not be removable simply because they have penetrated the leather. Using aniline cleaners will enrich the colours in these leathers which will then blend in the stains more and also clean the surface. Adding a urethane finish is also a good option as this will then make the surface a little more hard wearing which can then be additionally protected with a good leather protector which will make future cleaning easier.

The colour in these leathers can also be easily restored if faded with aniline dyes which will also help to blend in any stains etc and make them less apparent.

Hope this helps
 
Whilst degreasing is always an option on these leathers this will only deal with oil based stains. There is also a chance that degreasing will pull colour out of the leather which would then need to be dealt with.

Most stains will not be removeable in this way and the best thing to do is to help them blend in. Aniline cleaners enhance the colour and help to blend in the stains more evenly.

An aniline urethane coating can be applied to these leathers which will make them a little more robust in use and if a protector is also used this will make future cleaning much easier and help prevent staining and damage from body oils.

Aniline leathers that have faded can be redyed with the use of aniline dyes very successfully. These will return colour to the leather the way they were originally dyed during the retanning process.

Hope this helps

Judyb
 
Guitarist302008 said:
The leather is similar to what they call "saddle leather", I would do a google search for "king ranch seat cleaning" and saddle leather as well... do not take my words as fact ... I only worked on ONE of these trucks.
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I did a google search and it directed me back to your post ^ :cooleek:



judyb said:
Whilst degreasing is always an option on these leathers this will only deal with oil based stains. There is also a chance that degreasing will pull colour out of the leather which would then need to be dealt with.

Most stains will not be removeable in this way and the best thing to do is to help them blend in. Aniline cleaners enhance the colour and help to blend in the stains more evenly.

An aniline urethane coating can be applied to these leathers which will make them a little more robust in use and if a protector is also used this will make future cleaning much easier and help prevent staining and damage from body oils.

Aniline leathers that have faded can be redyed with the use of aniline dyes very successfully. These will return colour to the leather the way they were originally dyed during the retanning process.

Hope this helps

Judyb
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Thanks Judy :cool:





Guitarist302008 said:
it is nice, comfortable leather, but I wouldn't take it if you gave it to me.
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I agree ^



those seats are awesome just so long as their not mine :clock:
 
stotte20 said:
thanks roger, now can i ask is there certian products that you recomend for the steps that you have told us. thanks.
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I shall walk you through from pictures how you would tackle each problems - restoring it back to the original if you wish.



This would be your hands-on experience with pictures on every step that you accomplished.



Show us some pictures and we can go from there!





Roger Koh

[email protected]
 
Guitarist302008 said:
it is nice, comfortable leather, but I wouldn't take it if you gave it to me.
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Agreed, just too much care involved compared to most other automotive leather. Still can't figure out why Ford uses it in a real truck that people actually use as trucks. I have a regular customer with one and 9 times out of 10, it is obvious it just came back from his ranch.
 
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