Kaepernick

Kaepernick has said he doesn`t want to kneel forever and now has a list of demands he plans to present (to whom I am not sure).
 
bigfish528 said:
Your not getting what I`m saying, yes it is a citizens right to object to the anthem ...
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Heh heh, of course I get what you`re saying. I just don`t agree with some of it.

We agree that, in your words "yes it is a citizens right to object to the anthem..." and otherwise exercise the Right to Free Speech even when it`s objectionable. But unlike you, I don`t believe that such behavior rises to being traitorous, or "..just as evil as terrorist", or deserving to be rendered off to " ... Norh Korea, Syria, Somolia etc". So we *disagree* on that part.

I agree with you *completely* when you posted " ...people do not show support then shame on them. Not supporting and protesting the anthem does nothing to change local law enforcement actions either right or wrong. But it does say thanks for nothing for the sacrifices soldiers have made." But IMO people like that are allowed to behave that way and can even be decent citizens despite doing so.

Heh heh, on this topic I bet that you and I actually agree a lot more than we disagree! Maybe all we really disagree on is whether this sort of behavior is the same as being a traitor or terrorist, and how people who display this kind of contemptible disrespect should be treated.

Why do I give a [flip]? Perhaps because a friend of mine/my wife`s was one of those *extreme* (but nonviolent) Student Radicals back in the `60s. She`s the gal carrying a *NVA* flag in a photo that`s been published a few times. She still thinks it was an OK thing to do although she now understands just how evil the NVA/VC were. Back then, when I was younger and long before I knew her personally, I would`ve been OK with punishing her for that, and I still think it was a *TERRIBLE* thing to do. But these days I`m sure glad she wasn`t punished for doing it as it turns out that she`s a great person who`s made an *incredible*, and direct, difference in a great many lives, really contributed to our society in a positive way by anybody`s standards. IMO her good points vastly outweigh her bad ones, enough so that we are friends, and I`m sure she thinks the same about me since we continue to disagree about certain Hot Topics.
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, of course I get what you`re saying. I just don`t agree with some of it.

We agree that, in your words "yes it is a citizens right to object to the anthem..." and otherwise exercise the Right to Free Speech even when it`s objectionable. But unlike you, I don`t believe that such behavior rises to being traitorous, or "..just as evil as terrorist", or deserving to be rendered off to " ... Norh Korea, Syria, Somolia etc". So we *disagree* on that part.

I agree with you *completely* when you posted " ...people do not show support then shame on them. Not supporting and protesting the anthem does nothing to change local law enforcement actions either right or wrong. But it does say thanks for nothing for the sacrifices soldiers have made." But IMO people like that are allowed to behave that way and can even be decent citizens despite doing so.

Heh heh, on this topic I bet that you and I actually agree a lot more than we disagree! Maybe all we really disagree on is whether this sort of behavior is the same as being a traitor or terrorist, and how people who display this kind of contemptible disrespect should be treated.

Why do I give a [flip]? Perhaps because a friend of mine/my wife`s was one of those *extreme* (but nonviolent) Student Radicals back in the `60s. She`s the gal carrying a *NVA* flag in a photo that`s been published a few times. She still thinks it was an OK thing to do although she now understands just how evil the NVA/VC were. Back then, when I was younger and long before I knew her personally, I would`ve been OK with punishing her for that, and I still think it was a *TERRIBLE* thing to do. But these days I`m sure glad she wasn`t punished for doing it as it turns out that she`s a great person who`s made an *incredible*, and direct, difference in a great many lives, really contributed to our society in a positive way by anybody`s standards. IMO her good points vastly outweigh her bad ones, enough so that we are friends, and I`m sure she thinks the same about me since we continue to disagree about certain Hot Topics.
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I hear what you are saying Accum and agree with you ,it just pisses me off with what our soldiers fight for, true these protestors are not terrorist or should they be treated as such but none the less we need to support the people who fight for our freedoms. As far as injustice with local law enforcement I agree to protest if any wrong doing occurs especially if a person is unarmed and no weapon is found. Now if people protest after a suspect is shot and a weapon is found after not following police orders is a different story.
 
bigfish528- Ah, we do agree on most of this stuff after all :D

Eh, certain things just get me riled up, getting Old and Cranky.
 
He is so WEAK, what a surprise... :)
And he has demands??? Obviously not even in touch with what America needs now...

With all his millions for being a reject 2nd stringer, I never see him or hear him doing anything for his community...

But boy, he has demands... "I got all these millions, but I still need this from you"... Really???

A great President of the United States once said that he prayed really hard on his knees for help; then got up and went out and did everything in his power to bring about what he prayed for...

El diminutivo demando still looks like Buckwheat.. :)
Dan F
 
"Look at me! Look at me! I *am* relevant dammit!"

What an incredible tool. It`s almost sad to watch.
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Heh heh...wonder why people *do* watch him. What if everybody simply ignored him..."you`re neither interesting nor worth my time".
 
This guy is an idiot, I do not mean in the sense of a pinhead but a literal idiot, as in not very intelligent.

Here`s some advice to this guy, if you`re gonna have a "cause" at least study that cause and why you feel so strongly about it. This guy can`t answer questions about the cause he kneels for because he gets his news from such stand up places like The View and The Daily Show.

He says America represses blacks and minorities yet the sports industry is pretty much made up of all minorities, ya not very bright this guy.

How much money has this guy made tossing around a pigskin ball and yet he is disgusted with America and her capitalistic system?

So ya, he is an ill informed idiot. The great thing though is ignorance is just a temporary condition if one so desires it to be.
 
When one posts about him, he is getting what he wants. I am sure he does not care if someone calls him anything.
 
Whines about exploitation but looks right out of a mid-70`s blaxploitation movie. Super-Fly, anyone?
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