Accumulator
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Clarification, please
You`re saying that the PFM from Advance differs from the PFM from AG?I`m still not on the bandwagon, but I am curious enough to want to know!
It`s here! Griots new edgeless PMF drying towel.
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Clarification, please
You`re saying that the PFM from Advance differs from the PFM from AG?I`m still not on the bandwagon, but I am curious enough to want to know!
rlmccarty2000
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Clarification, please
I`m still not on the bandwagon, but I am curious enough to want to know!
Mine was. The PFM from AG was a thicker, better quality towel. No idea why except maybe it cost less. I believe Griots is still selling PFMs through Advance. I bought mine online so I did not see it until delivered. I would not buy another through Advance.
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MattPersman
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Could be two different lines. The cheaper price point for parts stores and the premium versions for themselves and boutique places like PBMG
With as many towels that are available out there would not surprise me
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With as many towels that are available out there would not surprise me
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SGM2008
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Interesting ... the large towels from Advanced (silver w/teal border) feel and appear to be the same thinkness and quality of the 2-Pack of 16" towels I purchased through Autopia.
Oneheadlite
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I know Griot`s has bumped up the GSM on at least the larger PFM`s, I think the 16x16`s too. I don`t remember what they were when they were released though, was it like 850?
The silver/teal drying towel in the AG Outlet store doesn`t list the GSM.
*Edit, just checked - The blue detailing PFM`s are 1120 also.*
*Edit again - Google tells me they were 860gsm*
The silver/teal drying towel in the AG Outlet store doesn`t list the GSM.
*Edit, just checked - The blue detailing PFM`s are 1120 also.*
*Edit again - Google tells me they were 860gsm*
rlmccarty2000
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I thought it was strange also. I left a comment in the Advance Auto comment section about the towels. They advertised the sizes wrong also when I bought mine. Advance Auto allows customers to ask questions similar to the way Amazon does and I’ve advise other customers about the towels being the wrong advertised size and quality. It’s been about 18 months since I’ve bought the towels so things may have changed. Hopefully.
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Accumulator
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Huh, that`s some, uhm...confusion. Guess they`re closing out the lighter ones.
cashishift
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This is where I got mine.. I want to get 2 more.
Is there some inherent advantage to an edgeless towel that I am not aware of, other than the lack of edge banding that may not be of the same quality or softness as the towel microfiber band and, hence may scratch a surface that being wiped? HEY, maybe I answered my own question!!!
One thing I am NOT keen about PMF is how the looping catches on sharp corners or protruding emblems and badges and then you end up with pulls. While they work magnificently for drying, I know I should be a little more prudent in HOW I wipe or blot with them. I work on too many domestic (USA) designed and assembled vehicles where such "catches" are more prevalent, especially on panel seam gaps and just plain panel styling designs, SUV and trucks in particular, and manufacturing and assembly practices and tolerances are not on par with their imported competition. I can lament (AKA, wine) all I want about this in domestic vehicles, but it will not change anything. Just need to be more vigilant in wiping. Hate to be a "barber" for my PMF towels and cut off the pulls, but if you don`t they catch even more!
I bought the smaller 16x16 drying towels from Griots for easy of handling when they get soaked. You can have two twin packs of these towels for about the same price as a single large 25 x 35 towel. I think it makes more sense for the smaller towels, BUT if you are drying larger vehicles, like full cab trucks or motor-homes with a lot of panel area all the time, the larger towel may be a better option.
And don`t get me started on microfiber quality. If there is one aspect for ANY detailer, hobbyist or pro, that should not be "cheaped", it is microfibers. I cannot tell you how much of a difference it can make in the end result of a detail. It seems pointless to spend an inordinate amount of hours correcting and polishing a surface, and then wiping it with a less-than-quality microfiber and it looks swirled and you end up chasing your tail.
On another note if you are somewhat curious about what microfibers to use with specific detailing tasks, please see the thread I started on this subject:
https://www.autopia.org/forums/car-...ask-list-autopian-suggestions.html?highlight=
One thing I am NOT keen about PMF is how the looping catches on sharp corners or protruding emblems and badges and then you end up with pulls. While they work magnificently for drying, I know I should be a little more prudent in HOW I wipe or blot with them. I work on too many domestic (USA) designed and assembled vehicles where such "catches" are more prevalent, especially on panel seam gaps and just plain panel styling designs, SUV and trucks in particular, and manufacturing and assembly practices and tolerances are not on par with their imported competition. I can lament (AKA, wine) all I want about this in domestic vehicles, but it will not change anything. Just need to be more vigilant in wiping. Hate to be a "barber" for my PMF towels and cut off the pulls, but if you don`t they catch even more!
I bought the smaller 16x16 drying towels from Griots for easy of handling when they get soaked. You can have two twin packs of these towels for about the same price as a single large 25 x 35 towel. I think it makes more sense for the smaller towels, BUT if you are drying larger vehicles, like full cab trucks or motor-homes with a lot of panel area all the time, the larger towel may be a better option.
And don`t get me started on microfiber quality. If there is one aspect for ANY detailer, hobbyist or pro, that should not be "cheaped", it is microfibers. I cannot tell you how much of a difference it can make in the end result of a detail. It seems pointless to spend an inordinate amount of hours correcting and polishing a surface, and then wiping it with a less-than-quality microfiber and it looks swirled and you end up chasing your tail.
On another note if you are somewhat curious about what microfibers to use with specific detailing tasks, please see the thread I started on this subject:
https://www.autopia.org/forums/car-...ask-list-autopian-suggestions.html?highlight=
Accumulator
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Heh heh, yeah, you did
The edging is something I expected to matter to me, but now that I`ve used both types I`m a little surprised by how little it really does. Maybe I`m just used to folding them/etc. to deal with the edging, but it`s just not *that* big of a deal to me. Not that I wouldn`t opt for edgeless if given the choice...
I`ve turned out to be far less of a MF Snob that I expected, and can honestly say that all of my Detailing MFs are (at least) OK. I`m still using some Cobra, YoSteve, and MiracleTowel MFs from the `90s!
I`ve sure never marred things up due to using a substandard MF (exception- the earliest GG MFs, which I sent back after they micromarred the Jag`s lacquer). BUT, I suspect that`s because everything that touches my paint gets CD-tested. Imperfect test all right, but better than nothing.
dschribs
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I use the the 16 x 16 Griots PFM`s for drying because I always thought their actual "drying towel" at 29" x 36" was WAY too big. While I do LOVE the PFM`s for drying - I always wished they were just a little bigger for areas like the hood and the roof.
I see now AG has a 28" x 20" size which may be just what I am looking for. (They may have had this for awhile but I just noticed it). Maybe this is the "pro" version (more expensive) of the 27" x 19" they sell at Auto Zone.
I`m going to grab one of those. I`m thinking that the larger one - plus one of the 16 x 16`s - should be the perfect drying combination.
I see now AG has a 28" x 20" size which may be just what I am looking for. (They may have had this for awhile but I just noticed it). Maybe this is the "pro" version (more expensive) of the 27" x 19" they sell at Auto Zone.
I`m going to grab one of those. I`m thinking that the larger one - plus one of the 16 x 16`s - should be the perfect drying combination.