Isopropyl Alcohol in QD's?

Spilchy

Spilchy

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Hey folks, I thought I'd run my question by you guys. I'd appreciate your input. I took advantage of the 50% off sale of AutoMagic products at SparkleAuto.com. I purchased a gallon of their carnauba fortified QD for like $6 and a couple other items for a total of $17 or so.

What's cool is the label on the jug has the MSDS sheet and lists the ingredients like you see on a food label. No other manufacturer seems to do this that I know of. You usually have to request it or go hunt it down.

What wasn't cool was reading that one of the ingredients is isopropyl alcohol. Do QD's normally contain alcohol? I realize it's a bulk product manufacturer and maybe a lesser quality QD as a result.

My question is, given that ingredient, will it remove LSP's or glazes if I use it during a detail? It says it is a great in between washes product. Will I be in essence removing my paste wax with it when I do a final wipe down after I apply the wax?!

I bought it because I only use carnauba products and thought this would be nice to have. After all, I figured for $6 it was worth a shot.

Or, do many other QD's have it in them and I shouldn't be too concerned. I looked up the MSDS on Meguiar's QD's and they don't list it.

Any ideas or comments?

I have included 2 800x600 images for you guys to see. Sorry it's a tad big, but I wanted you to read the words. I like the label - very informative! Hope you can read it.
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Seth I think you know the answer to your own question:yes:

I can't think of any other QD's with alcohol in them:no:
 
Poorboy said:
Seth I think you know the answer to your own question:yes:

I can't think of any other QD's with alcohol in them:no:
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:bawling: Really? Not even something similar in other QD's? A solvent of some sort?

I guess it can be good for a wipe down after a polishing prior to applying a wax. This way the LSP stays fully intact on a freshly cleaned surface.

Oh well, it was only $6 for the gallon :whistling

Smells like bananas! :eat:
 
Their label doesn't state the percentage of alcohol contained in the product. It merely lists it as an ingredient and you don't know if its concentration is only a few ppm or if it is at the percent level. Since most ingredient labels list compounds in a product in decreasing amounts, all you can really assume is their product is mostly water and the second most abundant ingredient is the alcohol.

Most here already know that an isopropyl alcohol wipe is recommended to remove polish fillers and that IPA/water approximately 1:1 will strip or compromise most sealants.

I think Steve made a good point. IMO I wouldn't expect that this product would be to good if you are trying to get the maximum life out of your wax.
 
Spilchy said:
:bawling: Really? Not even something similar in other QD's? A solvent of some sort?

I guess it can be good for a wipe down after a polishing prior to applying a wax. This way the LSP stays fully intact on a freshly cleaned surface.

Oh well, it was only $6 for the gallon :whistling

Smells like bananas! :eat:
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I guess as long as your LSP doesn't mind the carnauba that may be on the surface after using this particular product. I don't see much use in it other than as a clay lube perhaps. Maybe a wheel shiner or something.
 
Yeah chml17l, I assume ingredients are listed in order of abundance.

Fuzz, I think you're right. It'll be good for claying (maybe if it doesn't eat the bar!), wheels, door jambs, bumpers, etc... Like I mentioned in my previous post, I only use carnauba so that's why I mentioned the post polish wipe down prior to the waxing.
 
Spilchy said:
:bawling: Really? Not even something similar in other QD's? A solvent of some sort?
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I can see that a QD w/ carnauba might have a solvent as a carrier, and if it was billed as a cleaner/wax (sort of like QW+ / QD+) , but not alcohol
 
Auto Magic doesn't have much info about it on their web-site, but what they do have is here.
They sure do sell a lot of products to be making crap. I really doubt that it is going to damage your paint and probably won't hurt the wax, either.

Of course, it isn't my vehicle either.:)

Charles
 
Wouldn't the <2 for % of IPA indicate less than 2% by weight?
Doesn't seem like much.
Try it on your washing machine or dryer.

Charles
 
Meguiar's uses:

-PNP Glycol Ether
-Propylene Glycol

in all of their detailer sprays.


"Both compounds are used to make antifreeze and de-icing solutions for cars, airplanes, and boats; to make polyester compounds; and as solvents in the paint and plastics industries."

Source: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts96.html
 
Thanks Sean, I saw the MSDS sheets on Meguiar's website. That's the first place I checked.

Less than 2%? Given all the other stuff in there, I don't think that's a lot. But, I don't know how much it would take to comprimise LSP's.

What I'll do is try it on half the car I wax this weekend and leave the other half untouched. I'll check back in a month after a hand washing and see how the rinse water reacts with the surface.

Thanks Charles! I'm going to QD the washing machine. I have clothes in the dryer now. :D
 
Come on people, do you really think automagic would put something out that would cause more damage then good? Lets not start the it cost 6$ or dealerships use it so it must be bad thing. Automagic makes quality detailing products, the alcohol is in there for some reason. You want to know more? Call your automagic rep and ask him but don't badmouth the stuff.
 
CharlesW said:
Try it on your washing machine or dryer.

Charles
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I just did. The washing machine had loads of water spots and a sprinkling of dust, most likely from lint.

The QD went on and wiped off with ease. Despite the dirty surface, there were no streaks or difficulty in wiping off. It left a perfectly clean surface, high gloss and super slick like the surface feels with Eagle One WAUD or Mothers FX Spray Wax. Within 15 seconds the top of the dryer was gleaming and showing off some serious orange peel!

The banana scent rules. Like the banana Lifesaver candy smell.

Thanks for your help guys. I thought it would make for a good discussion. I won't know about it affecting durability until I try it.
 
Hey, for a gallon at less than the 16 oz. price, it sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
Like I said before, Auto Magic sells a lot of stuff to be making crap products.
Companies that sell to consumers have lots of customers to fool before the word gets around. You only have so many pros to screw over and you are in deep doo-doo.

Charles
 
TrueDetailer said:
Come on people, do you really think automagic would put something out that would cause more damage then good? Lets not start the it cost 6$ or dealerships use it so it must be bad thing. Automagic makes quality detailing products, the alcohol is in there for some reason. You want to know more? Call your automagic rep and ask him but don't badmouth the stuff.
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I don't think the word damage ever came into play here..it was whether or not the Iso/Alcohol would remove some of the LSP that was already on the vehicle:confused:
 
Poorboy said:
I don't think the word damage ever came into play here..it was whether or not the Iso/Alcohol would remove some of the LSP that was already on the vehicle:confused:
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Maybe i used the wrong choice of words, my bad. Hey it might in fact strip LSP or everything off the paint. I don't think automagic would put something on the market that would do that but hey there is isopropyl alcohol in it so i could be wrong. Next time i get some supplies i'm gonna bring it up.
 
TrueDetailer said:
Maybe i used the wrong choice of words, my bad. Hey it might in fact strip LSP or everything off the paint. I don't think automagic would put something on the market that would do that but hey there is isopropyl alcohol in it so i could be wrong. Next time i get some supplies i'm gonna bring it up.
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I highly doubt it would strip anything completely :no:
It may just be the carrier for the wax content.
 
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