Is the PC obsolete?

Don't you think this will just require polishes/compounds specifically designed for the ceramic clearcoats? And then the current order of things (PC vs. rotary) will still apply.
 
wannafbody said:
will a PC be able to fully break down harder abrasives?
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Well I think companies will take this into consideration when making or reformulating polishes. I dont think the PC will become obsolete.
 
Do you know any dealerships or body shops that use a PC?



I think the PC is a hobby/enthusiast/very small business tool. The shops buying 10 gallons of compound per month will unfortunately dictate how those new polishes are formulated.
 
jsatek said:
The shops buying 10 gallons of compound per month will unfortunately dictate how those new polishes are formulated.
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I would have to disagree with that comment. When was the last time you seen Optimum or Menzerna used in a bodyshop..These companies are constantly working to meet the needs of their target market autopians and other enthusiasts?



I believe Megs and 3m are the companies behind in the ceramiclear portion of polishes and compounds.
 
It's going to be a long time before we need to worry about the majority of cars having hard clear coats. As it stands, 90% of the cars I work on are much, much softer on average than they were even 5 years ago.
 
Joshua312 said:
I would have to disagree with that comment. When was the last time you seen Optimum or Menzerna used in a bodyshop..These companies are constantly working to meet the needs of their target market autopians and other enthusiasts?



I believe Megs and 3m are the companies behind in the ceramiclear portion of polishes and compounds.
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Thats the trick - lets see a Menzera or Optimum balance sheet against one of 3m!

Menzerna focuses a product line towards detailers and another to metal and coating polishers. Optimum seems to be interested in capturing the detailer dollar also. This would need to remain in place for the detailers to benefit on product changes.
 
I think it's like you guys said. A combination of product formulations to meet market needs, if anything, the products will dictate the trend. I like my PC, but I'm finding out first hand how hard the corvette cc really is, I just have to work twice as hard to achieve the results of a rotary. I find the rotary a bit hard to handle. I think with practice I would get used to it. After I bought my PC I had second thoughts. I should've gotte the Dual Cyclo Polisher which I hear handles as nice as a PC
 
Z06-Goose said:
I think it's like you guys said. A combination of product formulations to meet market needs, if anything, the products will dictate the trend. I like my PC, but I'm finding out first hand how hard the corvette cc really is, I just have to work twice as hard to achieve the results of a rotary. I find the rotary a bit hard to handle. I think with practice I would get used to it. After I bought my PC I had second thoughts. I should've gotte the Dual Cyclo Polisher which I hear handles as nice as a PC
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I have a PC then bought the Cyclo and now the only thing I use the PC for is put on glazes. When it come to paint correction I always reach for the Cyclo. Since I just detail on my own cars and few friends I don't what to take the time required to learn the rotary, I think a Cyclo is a good and safe tool for the hobby detailer and usefull for the pro also. Just my thoughts!
 
wannafbody said:
with the harder clears becoming more common for newer model cars is the PC going to become obsolete?
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I can tell you that the next generation of polishes is being worked on now that will benefit all clearcoat finishes, soft to ultra hard. The PC puts out plenty of energy to do the job.
 
DavidB said:
I can tell you that the next generation of polishes is being worked on now that will benefit all clearcoat finishes, soft to ultra hard. The PC puts out plenty of energy to do the job.
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The DON has spoke.
 
The PC will always be a valuable tool for finishing out polishing without swirls. Many here use a rotary to correct and a Cyclo or PC to do the final polishing to ensure a swirl free finish.
 
You know.. back in the 1950's it was predicted that by the year 2000 we would have "flying cars" powered by miniature nuclear reactors...



In that vein.... the PC will not become obsolete!
 
Scottwax said:
The PC will always be a valuable tool for finishing out polishing without swirls. Many here use a rotary to correct and a Cyclo or PC to do the final polishing to ensure a swirl free finish.
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well put scott...
 
Just like Santa Claus, as long as you believe in the PC it will be there. After I got my Makita, it will always be....... in the back of the cabinent gathering dust!
 
Gonzo0903 said:
You know.. back in the 1950's it was predicted that by the year 2000 we would have "flying cars" powered by miniature nuclear reactors...



In that vein.... the PC will not become obsolete!
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potholes and stone chips would be obsolete if that occured:grinno:
 
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