Is Polishing Dust Necessarily a Bad Thing?

Dave N

Dave N

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I just got some Klasse AIO/SG, and was thinking about doing a Dawn wash before I put the Klasse on this weekend. Someone posted in another thread that Dawn has a high pH, so it strips all the old wax, etc. off. I'm wondering how Dawn effects paint pH after you rinse it all off. Does it leave it out of balance? If you put any kind of wax/sealant on after a Dawn wash, does the paint stay pH imbalanced underneath? I'm thinking that AutoInt's "Product C Surface Conditioner" wash would be a good thing to do after Dawn. What are everyone elses thoughts?
 
Many car care nuts do use Dawn once a year or so to remove old carnauba wax. It's really not a worry at all. It's when you use it once a month or so that you really need to begin worrying. A chemist on the board has gone on to say that any thoughts that Dawn removes any "essential oils" from the paint is BS. If you still don't want to use Dawn, a good paint cleanser should be fine. A very good one to use is Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion. Laters.
 
Yes, this should also work. I just think that the Pinnacle product is a bit better. Just my opinion. Anyway, it would be great to follow with the AIO and then SG. Now, that would be ideal.



I didn't mention this in my previous post. It's always a good idea to follow a wash of Dawn with one of a quality car soap. This is to help ensure that you removed any debris that may have remained.
 
I think these assumed "unecessary steps" such as washing the car down with your shampoo after a Dawn .. or using P21S/Pinnacle Paintwork Lotion before AIO really can make a great difference. Not like there is anything wrong with doing something like this. If you got the time and product.. why not do it. I dont think you would be dissapointed.



For example when I clayed, many may say it is not needed, b/c the car is so new. But after a Dawn and a Clay.. I must say.. the paint was never that smooth! Give it a try. Only know if you try it.



PassatPunk.
 
AIO seems like a great product too (only used it once ; two coats on the Jetta). I really like P21S though. Do you think it is anything bad to P21S then AIO.



AIO lays down some acrylic -> Does a polish such as P21S really lay down anything? Or what it "lays" down is it just absorbed by the paint; seeing it restores oils, etc.



PassatPunk.
 
I'm always reading posts about certain polishes, compounds leaving a large amount of dust. I've done it myself!

My question is this: Is dusting good, bad, or doesn't matter?

Open for discussion........:wink:
 
I agree about the health risks with the dusting, but back when I was painting for a living, we used all the 3M stuff that dusted, and then we used a spur on the wool pad to clean it out and the dust went everywhere! :(
Like many of you guys I inhaled enough of that stuff too, and hopefully I dont have any problems from it later..
So in answer to your question, Bill, yes dusting is an issue, from a health and clean up standpoint - wish there was a compound that totally ate itself up completely so there was no dusting at all.
Closest one to do that for me - Zaino ZPC-Fusion -
Unfortunately, it isnt designed for really hard stuff, but then I havent tried it with a purple foam pad yet...
I guess when I get as good as all of you guys are, I will have a better control on all that pesky dust stuff or will have it together so well that I have enough time to wash it all out and still finish light years ahead..
Until then, I am sometimes dusty in Bellevue, WA..
Dan F
 
Stokdgs said:
So in answer to your question, Bill, yes dusting is an issue, from a health and clean up standpoint - wish there was a compound that totally ate itself up completely so there was no dusting at all.
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To be honest, I was always concerned about the dust mess. I never really considered the potential health issues from inhaling the stuff!:huh:
 
I hate polishing dust. Not only for health concerns, but mostly for the mess it creates. What are the worst and best polish fluids in regard to dust? In my experience, 3Ms create a LOT of it.
 
In terms of a polishes performance, dusting isn't always a bad thing. When you polish the paint you are removing trace amounts of the very top of it. If the paint is excessively soft, damaged, contaminated, oxidized, or just weathered, it can cause the polish itself to gum up. The removed paint will almost act like glue and cause the abrasives in the polish to stick together.

These clumped abrasives will act more abrasive and create a deeper, more uneven cut instead of a controlled even cut. In this case we want to use a drier polish that will dust, or expel the spent abrasives and removed paint away from the polishing surface.

On older, weathered paints, I love using Menzerna PO91e Intensive Polish. While it does dust quite a bit, it leaves the surface very polished and does a create job cutting through oxidation, contamination, and damage.
 
Luster said:
To be honest, I was always concerned about the dust mess. I never really considered the potential health issues from inhaling the stuff!:huh:
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thats what i thought you meant in the original post. i don't have a garage so i guess the dust isn't as much of a concern as those guys that are in a closed environ. but still something to think about...hmmmmmm
 
Luster said:
To be honest, I was always concerned about the dust mess. I never really considered the potential health issues from inhaling the stuff!:huh:
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Wow, me to ^^^^^ then again years ago when wire wheels were popular I used loads of wire wheel cleaner. I use to hate it when doing a wheel and the chemical would literally take my breath away :redface:


glfahlc said:
thats what i thought you meant in the original post. i don't have a garage so i guess the dust isn't as much of a concern as those guys that are in a closed environ. but still something to think about...hmmmmmm
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I've pretty much always had a garage, but have always found myself working outdoors...I like natural light

I have always noticed I get big boogers when running the polisher :redface:



RootsRadical said:
I collect the polishing dust and save it to sprinkle on my cornflakes in the morning. Mmmm...polishing dust! :drool5:
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Thats pretty funny RR :rofl:
 
Flash Gordon said:
I've pretty much always had a garage, but have always found myself working outdoors...I like natural light
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You and I are in the minority. I started a thread a few months ago about whether most detailers like indoor or outdoor detailing. Of all the posts listed, I think I was the only "outdoor" guy!

I agree... I like sunlight.
 
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