Is ONR really the way to go?

bigfoot said:
1 grit guard

4 capfuls on 3 gallons of water
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This post sparked 2 questions in my head:



1) How many of you are using a grit guard in combination with ONR?



2) How strictly do you all adhere to the ONR recommended mixing ratio? I believe the bottle calls for a 1 cap: 1 gallon ratio, is using the above 4:3 (or 1.3:1) ratio better/worse than the 1:1?



I already have 2 bottles of ONR that I use relatively frequently, but was curious about the above. :bigups
 
Scottwax said:
I use it as instructed on the bottle. No grit guard, although it would probably be better to use one.
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Thanks Scott. I also dont have a Grit-Guard and left it out of tonights order. Maybe Ill add one to next weeks order. :confused:
 
Mark77 said:
I have used ONR a number of times for about a year and it really works alright. It's also great to use as a QD and it's very economical. But I think it can cause marring if you are not careful esp on very dirty paint.

So I still prefer the traditonal method for washing becouse:

1) It's much easier to clean wheelwells and other hard to reach areas with a hose and I like to spray the undercarriage every time I wash also.

2)The MF towels, or washmitt gets very dirty, it seems like the ONR makes the dirt stick to the mitt or MF towel. Same thing about the drying towel. And it's not easy to get clean either, this is a problem I never have when using normal car wash.
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I have to agree with everything Mark77 mentioned in his post.



ONR saves me a lot of time, but I still prefer a traditional wash. Using ONR feels no different than dipping a towel in a bucket of water and wiping your car down and it's hard to get over that feeling. At least with a traditional wash I can feel the lubricity between my soap, and my cleaning media (mitt, sponge, etc.)



Also, if anyone is considering switching to ONR, you might want to make sure you have enough towels because you'll be using more of them to clean and dry your vehicle. And since the dirt the ONR "picks up" is carried away by your towel and wash media, it seems to stick to your towels and not want to release. Your towels will get really soiled when using ONR and even after a hot wash you'll still find stains on them.



I think it's a good item to have in your arsenal, but I just don't think it can substitute for a good flow of pressure and water. If it was a car that I washed weekly, ONR would be perfect for that scenario, especially since it cuts so much time and leaves a really nice look once you're done. But if it was a dirty car that you were washing for the first time, I'd rather wash it the traditional method and get as much dirt out of all the little crevices on a car.



Someone once refered to ONR like wiping your body down to freshen up and I have to agree with his analogy. You can get away with taking little "cat baths" but sooner or later you'll have to take a real shower.
 
BlackElantraGT said:
ONR saves me a lot of time, but I still prefer a traditional wash. Using ONR feels no different than dipping a towel in a bucket of water and wiping your car down and it's hard to get over that feeling. At least with a traditional wash I can feel the lubricity between my soap, and my cleaning media (mitt, sponge, etc.)
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This was the hardest thing for me to get over: the lack of suds and the totally dry/dirty paint I was about to clean. Up until reading this thread I have still been nervous about using it as my go-to wash and have only done so thus far when a hose was out of the question (inside the convention center I recently worked out of)...



I will say that Scott's pics of the F250 above speak volumes about ONRs capability of removing stuck on dirt without marring the paint. :woot2:



BlackElantraGT said:
But if it was a dirty car that you were washing for the first time, I'd rather wash it the traditional method and get as much dirt out of all the little crevices on a car.
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This is one of my bigger issues with not being able to rinse the car down first and really knock off any large dirt particles in the wheels wells, on the wheels, etc.



Has anybody else done an ONR wash and then weeks later a more traditional wash (same vehicle) only to discover some ONR residue was left in cracks and comes soaping out? That was kinda disconcerning to me atleast. :nixweiss
 
expectingrain said:
I got my ONR after reading all the glowing reviews on here. No one had anything bad to say, and the people around here know their stuff. I think it works great and you can do your car in very little time. My question is, how does it do on road salt in the winter?
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Great question. I would like to hear an answer to this as well.
 
RogueM3 said:
This post sparked 2 questions in my head:



1) How many of you are using a grit guard in combination with ONR?



2) How strictly do you all adhere to the ONR recommended mixing ratio? I believe the bottle calls for a 1 cap: 1 gallon ratio, is using the above 4:3 (or 1.3:1) ratio better/worse than the 1:1?



I already have 2 bottles of ONR that I use relatively frequently, but was curious about the above. :bigups
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I use the mention ratio, which is higher than the one recommended by Optimum, to ensure lubricity(sp?) since I clay at the same time I wash with ONR. No major problems at all...
 
bigfoot said:
since I clay at the same time I wash with ONR.
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How do you do this-- do you apply it with a washmitt and then use the clay before drying?



Also, I did my windshields and I was driving in the rain last night and the water rolled right off, just like the Rain-x effect. It was pretty cool. Has anyone else noticed this?
 
expectingrain said:
How do you do this-- do you apply it with a washmitt and then use the clay before drying?



Also, I did my windshields and I was driving in the rain last night and the water rolled right off, just like the Rain-x effect. It was pretty cool. Has anyone else noticed this?
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First, I make sure I take out as much dirt as I can, then I pass the clay in whatever area I needed, then pass again with the washmitt and ONR, and dry.:D
 
I think I too am going to convert to ONR washing. I have been doing the two bucket for a while now with Optimum wash and it is alright but it seems like ONR wash would save more time. I also use it as a clay bar lubricant and QD as well. Overall a very economical package imo.
 
I used ONR on my blue onyx pearl Lexus ES350 the week beore last. I used the two bucket method with a grit guard in both buckets. Just for good measure, I added a capful or two in the rinse bucket also. I used a microfiber chenile wash mitt for the top of the car and a different one for the bottom.



The car came out awsome and I will be using ONR more frequently on my car from now on. I did notice, however, that dirt still remained in some of the nooks and crannies but that requires a good stream of water to remove. I wash my car 1-2 times a week and I find that I mainly have dust and road dirt on it. It seems like a waste of water to get just road dust off my car.
 
I have always been hesitant to really use this stuff. Scottwax convinced me with his pics and my car got an ONR bath today. I was really surprised how good of a job it does at cleaning up my wheels. I used a schmitt. Does that violate any autopian ONR rules? Or is the schmitt ok.
 
ONR is the sh*t! I love it.



Someone said their drying towels get really dirty. I have not experienced this. I would think that if your drying towel is getting dirty, you didn't clean well enough with your ONR. You can wash the panel more than once before drying if needed.



In fact, my drying towel is never dirty after drying the wheels and wells. But, as I said, I make sure they get cleaned real well before drying.
 
VaSuperShine said:
i think the concensus is not to use the schmitt with onr, i think you want nice soft nap as opposed to dense synthetic.
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You mean a plush microfiber to wash and dry instead of chenille or lambswool mitt?
 
Danin Re said:
ONR is the sh*t! I love it.



Someone said their drying towels get really dirty. I have not experienced this. I would think that if your drying towel is getting dirty, you didn't clean well enough with your ONR. You can wash the panel more than once before drying if needed.



In fact, my drying towel is never dirty after drying the wheels and wells. But, as I said, I make sure they get cleaned real well before drying.
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That may be the case if you're using a wash media like a chenille pad, schmitt, or sponge for an ONR wash. But if your main media for washing is an mf towel, then the majority of the dirt is picked up by that towel and I find that my towels are so grungy looking after doing ONR washes.



Lately I've been using sea sponge in my traditional washes and I have a feeling these would be perfect for ONR. I'll have to give it a try some time.
 
I use a grout sponge, but I did notice the drying towels are somewhat dirtier when using ONR. Still love the stuff though!



To the OP, yes, it takes a leap of faith to try it.
 
BlackElantraGT said:
That may be the case if you're using a wash media like a chenille pad, schmitt, or sponge for an ONR wash. But if your main media for washing is an mf towel, then the majority of the dirt is picked up by that towel and I find that my towels are so grungy looking after doing ONR washes.



Lately I've been using sea sponge in my traditional washes and I have a feeling these would be perfect for ONR. I'll have to give it a try some time.
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Yeah, I use microfiber towels to wash and dry. My wash towel will be filthy as hell... but not the *drying* towel. I'd see a problem if the towel you were using to dry after the wash was coming away dirty.



Does anyone else have their drying towels come off the car dirty?
 
itb76 said:
I use a grout sponge, but I did notice the drying towels are somewhat dirtier when using ONR. Still love the stuff though!



To the OP, yes, it takes a leap of faith to try it.
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Maybe my car just isn't that dirty to begin with. My drying towels don't come away dirty when using ONR. :nixweiss But, admittedly, my car gets a wash every weekend (or every other weekend on those rare occassions that I can't get to it)
 
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