Is ONR really the way to go?

OK, I'm convinced with ONR. So, what is the best type of product to use to wash and dry with ONR?



Chenille mitt?

Microfiber mitt?

Microfiber cloth?

Microfiber plush cloth?

Lambs wool mitt?



Also the process is 2 buckets. 1 with the ONR/water mix and the other with just clean water. Use 1 or 2 mitts/cloths to soak in ONR/water mix and then wipe down panel. Rinse in clean water. Dry panel. Repeat. Is that it?
 
I was skeptical at first and had many of the same concerns expressed here. If my vehicles are reeeallly dirty I do a traditional wash, spraying off the underside and wells, etc. But for maintenance washes and for times when I don't have just that, I ONRWS.



I use a at least two mitts, whether chenille pads, mitts, microfiber mitts, and about 2.5 gallons of water w/ 4 capfuls (from the 32 oz. bottle). I use a 1 galllon pump sprayer to presoak as I go. Occasionally I pick up one of those 2.5 gallon jugs of distilled water and use that if I'm in a location where the water may be hard or unknown.



Scottwax has a Great writeup that I would reccomend. I was a definite skeptic of the potential for marring but after going through a half gallon I have noticed little if any wash induced marring. Certainly no more than traditional washing (foam gun, 2 buckets, etc.) if ONR'ing with care.
 
SuperBee,



I held some skepticism of ONR/QEW, but after using it for some time now, I feel its a great product for weekly washes. Checking for marring has been inconclusive, ONR doesn't seem to marr any worse than, nor more than a traditional wash.



I still feel a traditional wash is still necessary for dirt "levels" that are high (i.e. caked on badly). However, ONR seems (to me at least) to have enough cleaning ability to tackle dirt "levels" that I would say most people see on a weekly basis.



If you want, send me a PM, and I will send you out some to try.
 
anubus12 said:
OK, I'm convinced with ONR. So, what is the best type of product to use to wash and dry with ONR?



Chenille mitt?

Microfiber mitt?

Microfiber cloth?

Microfiber plush cloth?

Lambs wool mitt?



Also the process is 2 buckets. 1 with the ONR/water mix and the other with just clean water. Use 1 or 2 mitts/cloths to soak in ONR/water mix and then wipe down panel. Rinse in clean water. Dry panel. Repeat. Is that it?
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I use the MF corded style chenille mitts. I've used all that you mention plus a few others. If I'm doing a grimey area though I tend to use a MF towel. For drying I use two MF towels, first one gets the bulk, second one finishes. I'lll use more towels if needed but mosty just two. I use one bucket. If you are going to use 2 buckets I'd fill them both up with ONR so that the mix ratio doesn't change. By rinse in clean water I assume you mean the mtt and not the panel. Depending on the condition, temperature and sun position, you can do a few panels at a time. ONR is simple to use but it does take some getting used too. More you use it the more you'll feel comfortable with it.
 
I have been using it for a year now. I use it straight on customer's vehicles before polishing, but as for my own I still rinse with a pressure washer first before passing with ONR most of the time, great for those DIY wash places.
 
Stuff said:
No offense to the guys that posted the pics but there is not really proper lighting in those shots. If someone really want to put to rest the disbelievers. Here is what needs to be done.



1. Polish the car to near perfection. Take a shot of the paint under 1000w lights.

2. Drive the car for a week or 2 get it nice and dirty.

3. Wash the car with ONR and take a shot of the same exact spot under 1000w light.



Thats the only way to truly convince people I think.
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Polished (not quite to perfection though) in March 2006



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ONR washed 1-3 times per month, this shot taken in September 2006. Waxed a couple times in between, most times it was washed in the full sun, including all summer. Owner had an 80 mile round trip commute too.



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Thanks for the offer, RCBuddha, but I've already placed my order for some ONR!



I think I'll be using it on the wife's SUV for a while, though.;)
 
WOW scott,, that is definitly some PROOF right there!!! U already sold me on it a week ago and I have your thread in my favorites tab..

What do u think of applying it with a spot sprayer like a mini rinse?
 
OK, one last question on this subject, and I promise I'll go away...



Is it ok to use soft water with this stuff? I'd much rather use soft water from my filters than the hard crap that comes out of the hose as long as it's ok to use it with ONR.
 
Can someone please tell me if you can buy ONR at a local store or only on line? And if only on line, what is the best site to get it at? Thank you in advance, sorry for the hijack. Joe
 
I have used ONR a number of times for about a year and it really works alright. It's also great to use as a QD and it's very economical. But I think it can cause marring if you are not careful esp on very dirty paint.

So I still prefer the traditonal method for washing becouse:

1) It's much easier to clean wheelwells and other hard to reach areas with a hose and I like to spray the undercarriage every time I wash also.

2)The MF towels, or washmitt gets very dirty, it seems like the ONR makes the dirt stick to the mitt or MF towel. Same thing about the drying towel. And it's not easy to get clean either, this is a problem I never have when using normal car wash.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Is it ok to use soft water with this stuff? I'd much rather use soft water from my filters than the hard crap that comes out of the hose as long as it's ok to use it with ONR.
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Yes, it's definitely okay to use soft water. However, I've heard that ONR has the ability to soften water as well. It won't hurt if you can start out with soft water as well.



jtford95, as far as I know, ONR can only be purchased online. I've looked around, and I think that the prices are about the same, so Top of the Line, Autogeek, Danase, etc.. should be fine.
 
:D
Joshua312 said:
I guess you could do this but you are just creating more work, the idea is to do a panel with ONR follow with your waffle weave and keep going...getting rid of the hose all together. The ONR will lift away all the dirt, rinsing it with the hose will just put more water on the vehicle while ONR basically rinses all water/dirt off the vehicle.
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Yeah, I guess doing that would defeat ONR's purpose of saving time and MONEY. I guess I was just trying to break him in to using ONR.



SuperBee, if it means anything to you . . . I use ONR on my cars waxed with Vintage and it works perfectly fine. I still like a traditional wash with Zymol Clear, but ONR is great in a pinch or in the garage during a COLD midwest winter. You'll love it!
 
I got my ONR after reading all the glowing reviews on here. No one had anything bad to say, and the people around here know their stuff. I think it works great and you can do your car in very little time. My question is, how does it do on road salt in the winter?
 
ONR works well on rock salt and the chloride slurry they use now; I used it on 100% of the cars I did through the winter. I guess all us "pros" can say is if it didn't work we would be creating more work for ourselves. I do ~10-15 weekly washes for regulars a week, almost always with ONR. If I was inducing marring it'd just mean more time spent taking it out later.
 
ADHD said:
What do u think of applying it with a spot sprayer like a mini rinse?
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Some have used it in that manner and had excellent results. I typically just use the single bucket method when washing with ONR.
 
Vintage said:
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Yeah, I guess doing that would defeat ONR's purpose of saving time and MONEY. I guess I was just trying to break him in to using ONR.



SuperBee, if it means anything to you . . . I use ONR on my cars waxed with Vintage and it works perfectly fine. I still like a traditional wash with Zymol Clear, but ONR is great in a pinch or in the garage during a COLD midwest winter. You'll love it!
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Yes, that helps alot. I was curious if it would take off the vintage or not, thanks for that.
 
Scottwax said:
Polished (not quite to perfection though) in March 2006



2005_Ford_F250_sun2.jpg




ONR washed 1-3 times per month, this shot taken in September 2006. Waxed a couple times in between, most times it was washed in the full sun, including all summer. Owner had an 80 mile round trip commute too.



2005_Ford_F250_5months_after_polish1.jpg
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Thats what I'm talking about. Thanks a lot scott. If that does not convince people I don't know what will. I bought the stuff awhile back just a little paranoid about using it. I'm sure you have been asked this 100 times but where is your write up on the ONR wash. This forum seems to not pin good write ups very much and I don't have time to look through your 20k of posts looking for the write up. Thanks.
 
Stuff said:
Thats what I'm talking about. Thanks a lot scott. If that does not convince people I don't know what will. I bought the stuff awhile back just a little paranoid about using it. I'm sure you have been asked this 100 times but where is your write up on the ONR wash. This forum seems to not pin good write ups very much and I don't have time to look through your 20k of posts looking for the write up. Thanks.
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Ive made it a bookmark:

here u go:

http://autopia.org/forum/car-detail...osting-how-i-wash-cars-threads-here-mine.html
 
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