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Is Menzerna PO106FF really worth the cash???
- Thread starter 35TH LE
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imported_jgv
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106FF is a great polish, $50 for 32oz it's exagerated :nixweiss
Setec Astronomy
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The Blackfire Scratch Resistant Clear Finishing Polish from CMA is supposed to be the same stuff in a smaller bottle--16 oz. for $26.95.
imported_flatstick
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35TH LE said:Ive been interested in this stuff for a while now.... but DAMN is it expensive.
Is it really worth $50 for 32oz?
Thanks!
I have been using it for a few years and it has never let me down. expensive, not really if you see how much I use on an suv . it does allow me to one step with a rotary quite well on black :clap: so the time saved using one step and small amount used , achieving the finish I desire is worth it to * me * just my 2 cents.
sspeer said:It makes FPII look like a bargain! haha I just grabbed a 32oz of the FPII and was extremely pleased with it.
I can't see how PO106FF can be that much better to warrant double the price, especially at the hobbyist level.
though the price is significantly higher, its also a specific product made fore a specific application. More R&D went into it, and it is a different formula all together vs. the FPII.
even the balckfire polish - 26$ is pricy for 16 oz.
but man will you be gald you have it come time to detail a new benz . . . because it works . . .
I may just have to get a 16oz of the Blackfire... just for the Benz cars. I detailed a S430 the other day and all I could do was kick myself in the *** for not having any on hand. That paint was a PITA to work on. My #83 and cutting pad worked.. but it took a LONG time to get it right.
flatstick said:I have been using it for a few years and it has never let me down. expensive, not really if you see how much I use on an suv . it does allow me to one step with a rotary quite well on black :clap: so the time saved using one step and small amount used , achieving the finish I desire is worth it to * me * just my 2 cents.
Thanks to everyone offering their opinions.
Flatstick.. so when you say using a small amount, does that mean you can spread over a larger area with a "normal" amount of product or do you just use a lot less for the usual 2'x2' - 3'x3'?
Thanks!
35TH LE said:I may just have to get a 16oz of the Blackfire... just for the Benz cars. I detailed a S430 the other day and all I could do was kick myself in the *** for not having any on hand. That paint was a PITA to work on. My #83 and cutting pad worked.. but it took a LONG time to get it right.
Try to get the new Menzerna PO85RD3.02 instead of the Blackfire compound wich is the older formula, PO85RD3.01 bud with added lubricants(don´t see why PO106FF or RD3.01need this?
imported_flatstick
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35TH LE said:Thanks to everyone offering their opinions.
Flatstick.. so when you say using a small amount, does that mean you can spread over a larger area with a "normal" amount of product or do you just use a lot less for the usual 2'x2' - 3'x3'?
Thanks!
Myself I use a lot less product then others I have used for an area say 2x2. so in the end I use less to do the whole car or truck than with other polishes I have tried.
Black240SX
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35TH LE said:Is it really worth $50 for 32oz?
Is the finish twice as nice as compared to products costing half as much? No.
It's not twice as good, but it is definitely a step up from other polishes. You need to try it to find if it is worth it to you.
imported_NeilScarrott
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PO106FF is absolutely awesome, it has enough cut to polish out defects on medium/hard paints and finishes extremely well.
I use it to finish on my Audi A4 by rotary and it leaves a hologram free finish for me.
32oz of product will last many cars, you only need a pea sized amount, it really goes along way.
I use it to finish on my Audi A4 by rotary and it leaves a hologram free finish for me.
32oz of product will last many cars, you only need a pea sized amount, it really goes along way.
TeutonicCarFan
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Does PO106FF go inplace of FPII or after it?
Black240SX
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It goes in place of FP2.
NeilScarrott said:PO106FF is absolutely awesome, it has enough cut to polish out defects on medium/hard paints and finishes extremely well.
I use it to finish on my Audi A4 by rotary and it leaves a hologram free finish for me.
32oz of product will last many cars, you only need a pea sized amount, it really goes along way.
WOW.. a pea size amount? Maybe Ill have to try it out with the 16ozer then.
Thanks guys... Ill add this to my "next order" list. :xyxthumbs
imported_rydawg1
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I could not live without 106ff! It even cuts using by hand in those hard to get areas. The gloss is through the roof. I did have a complaint one time, my friend said he could not see the paint color cause the reflection was so clear and bright. It looked like a mirror and he wanted to know where his car went.
Is 106ff worth $50? hell ya!
Is 106ff worth $50? hell ya!
rydawg said:I could not live without 106ff! It even cuts using by hand in those hard to get areas. The gloss is through the roof. I did have a complaint one time, my friend said he could not see the paint color cause the reflection was so clear and bright. It looked like a mirror and he wanted to know where his car went.
Is 106ff worth $50? hell ya!
Next question... thanks for the response, by the way.
Are you guys using 106FF on ALL your detail jobs? Or are you using it when you have a car with the demanding scratch resistant clear coats? Ive notices some people use it on cars that this stuff wasnt designed for.
Thanks!
imported_rydawg1
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35TH LE said:Next question... thanks for the response, by the way.
Are you guys using 106FF on ALL your detail jobs? Or are you using it when you have a car with the demanding scratch resistant clear coats? Ive notices some people use it on cars that this stuff wasnt designed for.
Thanks!
I use it on all cars. It is a very fine abbrassive that breaks down to an extremely fine almost like clay in seconds. I have been detailing car for over 15 years and I have seen nothing that is so fine in grit and so glossy in the end result. This is where the magic begins. Then your lsp (sealant or wax) protects it!