Is it me or do others grit their teeth when they hear people

Im not a big expert, but the stuff some people say on here really scares me. :soscared: I feel for their paint. :rolleyes: Dishwashing soap is a degreaser, it removes grease. Thats what its made for. So, yes, wax will come off with dishwashing soap. :bigups
 
BlueLibby04 said:
If you are wanting to take the wax off, clay is the best.
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What grade of clay? What type of wax/sealant? How fresh is the LSP?



Fine and super-fine (such as Sonus green) clays will not necessarily remove all wax or sealant from your finish. More agressive clays meant for overspray correction almost certainly will, but the consumer clays most of us are familiar with are not really that all that strong when used with good lubrication.



IMO, a mild polish, a chemical paint cleanser, or a solvent (IPA, Prep-Solv) is your best bet to strip paint of old LSPs.



Tort
 
TortoiseAWD said:
What grade of clay? What type of wax/sealant? How fresh is the LSP?



Fine and super-fine (such as Sonus green) clays will not necessarily remove all wax or sealant from your finish. ..IMO, a mild polish, a chemical paint cleanser, or a solvent (IPA, Prep-Solv) is your best bet to strip paint of old LSPs...
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Yeah, those of us who spot-clay all the time know that gentle claying doesn't remove an appreciable amount of (healthy) LSP. Heh heh, having spot-clayed at just about every wash over the last 15 years or so, I'm quite confident about this. But then again, *how* you clay is a big part of what happens when you clay and it's easy to be too aggressive.



If you plan on stripping LSPs a lot (not sure why you would, but anyhow..) I'd just pick up a gallon of AutoInt's New Car Prep. It's made for use on cars, made to strip stuff off without damaging the various surfaces on a car. Safer than IPA? I dunno :nixweiss If somebody really wants to know the nitty-gritty they oughta call the folks at AutoInt, who are directly connected to the major automotive manufacturers- they'll have the straight scoop.
 
velobard said:
So what really is best to strip your paint, especially if you have a sealant? IPA?
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Use a sealant stripper. But, those products are not marketed in the auto industry, and I honestly don't know what they will do to paint. I've never seen them strip paint from walls and such where they are used to remove the same sealants from floors and such, but I wouldn't bet the house on it.
 
Accumulator said:
If you plan on stripping LSPs a lot (not sure why you would, but anyhow..)
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I'm going to do it this weekend before my car goes into the body shop. I don't have time to order anything, so I guess I'll pull out the MF and IPA.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
Cassman,

Passing on knowledge of any type is an essence of life. Big :xyxthumbs for helping out your neighbor. :bow



When this essence pertains to detailing (automotive), maybe over time we as detailing fanatics will not be looked upon as "irregulars". ;)



The last time I checked IPA, Prepsol and its cousin are also not received well by vehicle molding, ABS sidecladdings and rubber seals. Use all products that will strip oils and silicones with caution.
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Ha. Yes, he used to (actually, he still does) call me "psycho" ever since I got my black car and learned to take proper care of it. Now, I give him a hard time when I see him outside properly quick detailing his car and using microfiber towels. hehe
 
The whole Dawn thing is blown WAY out of proportion.



I have used the original blue Dawn as long as I can remember before a detail job. I use Zaino's soap the rest of the time. I have never, repeat, never had an issue with any rubber, flat trim, you name it from the use of Dawn. A small squirt is diluted into a few gallons of water, and rinsed promptly from the surface. This product is safe to soak your hands in, unlike many of the solvents I have heard others use, like Grease & Wax Remover to clean before a detail. Why one would use a solvent over a detergent is beyond me.



And no, it's not harsh enough that all wax will be stripped from the door jambs simple because it meanders over that surface. Then again, if you are using carnauba...it's most likely all gone by the time you are ready to was anyhow.
 
velobard said:
I'm going to [strip my LSP] this weekend before my car goes into the body shop. I don't have time to order anything, so I guess I'll pull out the MF and IPA.
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Ah, OK, that makes sense. FWIW, I wouldn't tell the paint shop that you did this. I'd want them to do their regular prep work; if you say "I already stripped the [wax] for you" then they might not use PrepSol/etc. the way they normally would. If they get fisheyes/etc. then they might say it was your fault ;)



What I do is tell the shop that I used a very durable sealant, you know, like a fair warning that they gotta do a good job cleaning stuff off before they start the work.
 
Isn't dishwashing detergent designed to remove oils? And aren't most automotive paints oil based? What then, prevents the dishwashing detergent from drying out the paint?
 
fiveiron said:
Isn't dishwashing detergent designed to remove oils? And aren't most automotive paints oil based? What then, prevents the dishwashing detergent from drying out the paint?
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Cured automotive paint has no oils and most importantly automotive paints have no requirement for oils to maintain its integrity.
 
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