Desertnate
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And a graphene infused traditional car wash shampoo too.
On exterior trim I found it would run all over the paint. It would either sweat out of the rubber in the hot sun or dissolve in the rain. Big mess. Never again for me.
Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?
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And a graphene infused traditional car wash shampoo too.
On exterior trim I found it would run all over the paint. It would either sweat out of the rubber in the hot sun or dissolve in the rain. Big mess. Never again for me.
The Guz
Mike
20% off right now.
Adams is going to be infusing their ceramic products with graphene to have their own maintenance line. Wouldn`t surprise me if they are one of the first to do so.
The Guz
Mike
Oh boy here we go again. He wasn`t happy with the chicago auto pros video so in response he releases this video to prove how great the coating is.
He is something else saying he tends to stay out of comparison videos yet he posts in the chicago auto pros video and now this one lol.
He is something else saying he tends to stay out of comparison videos yet he posts in the chicago auto pros video and now this one lol.
Painful watching. Is this guy really in sales?
You`re wrong we`re right never looks good.
The Guz
Mike
Unfortunately he is the face of their brand.
I see this as damage control to the Chicago auto pros video to not hurt their sales to cash in on the graphene buzzword.
acuRAS82
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The Guz was pretty spot on about Ethos guy.
BudgetPlan1
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It`s just just not a good look...let the product speak for itself. At some point (and maybe we`re there) ya just get tired of hearing from the the same mfg every time there is a mention of graphene.
The Guz
Mike
I agree. Here is something interesting that was pointed out to me which I did verify. So car supplies warehouse which is run by chicago auto pros has dropped the ethos graphene coating from the store. Ethos has also removed every single one of their posts from that video just like they did with my video. Again that does not look good.
William_Wallace
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The guy can not help him self from firing comments back. It’s not like he is the chemist that formulated he should have taken the high road or at least realize that he really need to think about his comments and pick and choose his content he wants to respond to. If he was the chemist that worked on this for years I could understand his reaction.
acuRAS82
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Yes, he’s not the chemist and he is literally failing at his real job.
William_Wallace
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I would love to see @loach or even try my self to buy a small supply of good RGO and mix into some spray sealants like BSD, mothers CMX and reload because it has silicone in it.
FunctionalDoc
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I watched the video from Chicago Auto Pros and Tim`s body language was bad with his arms crossed. I beleive that Tim is a good guy at heart but the wrong person to respond to criticism of their products.
He is so defensive and he is waffling and weaving more then politicians.
I learned a long time ago to watch and break myself from saying they are being honest with you are the really lying the rest of the time?
Overreacting is doing more damage to the brand.
William_Wallace
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Good point @ functionaldoc the guy should stick to its strengths the water beading I have seen some videos where the beading was exceptional I was impressed by the product. I Think if he played to those strengths and the ease of use compared to some ceramics he would some good talking points about the product. The points he trying to make where his company figured out graphene and ceramics are tier below are not chiving well.
@budget letting the product do the talking is another great point the Art de shine/SPS way.
@budget letting the product do the talking is another great point the Art de shine/SPS way.
BudgetPlan1
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SPS/Art d` Shine have been noticeably absent in the recent `graphene hoopla` aside from a non-confrontational post or 2 from Albert Yow.
Coincidentally, one of those posts explained that the water behavior in their graphene offering had *nothing* to do with graphene. There are also some non-coating related articles around that contend that graphene in `thin layer` applications is hydrophillic, not hydrophobic.
Methinks SPS/Art d Shine took the correct approach in all of this...in stark contrast to Ethos. Wonder if Ethos will take a lower profile at some point or will continue to bloviate themselves into the same marketing pit as TopCoat F11?
Some albeit early reviews from some folks I trust say that so far, the Ethos is actually a nicely performing coating; not the promise of lesser water spotting but overall does very well in the `normal` self cleaning, hydrophobic, application and aesthetic areas.
:shrug:
William_Wallace
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@budget that info about SPS and the graphene not being the main reason it had great beading is very interesting. I would have never guessed that.
on the Ethos coating if the price is right I will be grabbing it. For me I’m almost afraid to pull the trigger on another graphene product because I feel like the following day a different company will release a new product and I’ll be more wishing I had waited. For me graphene doesn’t have to be better than ceramics I just want it to decent product if I am spending money on it.
on the Ethos coating if the price is right I will be grabbing it. For me I’m almost afraid to pull the trigger on another graphene product because I feel like the following day a different company will release a new product and I’ll be more wishing I had waited. For me graphene doesn’t have to be better than ceramics I just want it to decent product if I am spending money on it.
Looks like I`ve missed a lot of action about graphene while I`ve been mia! My takeaway is if there are decent graphene products that are competitive with ceramic coatings then that`s a win. Seems like the claims of reducing surface temp haven`t held up in the products I`ve seen tested.
William_Wallace
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@budget just saw your YouTube video on graphene detailer. Since you have had some time to play around with it...is it something you would buy again or is it something that you would reach for over other products. It’s an expensive product.
BudgetPlan1
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I did find it quite nice, if`n I wasn`t a PA/Kami junkie I`d give it a go again. Although my glass is done in Gtechniq G1, it always provided a little boost for some refreshed performance in that area. It adds some slickness to the surface of paint too if you like that.
I have some left, maybe 1/3rd of a bottle (bought about a year ago, have no idea of shelf life) and if ya wanna give it a try, PM me your address and I`ll send it to ya if you`re in continental US.
The Guz
Mike
Adams put out their video on their coating. Don`t see them aggressively marketing theirs.
Strange turn of events I did receive an email from Ethos in regards to them taking down comments from my video and the Chicago auto pros.
Strange turn of events I did receive an email from Ethos in regards to them taking down comments from my video and the Chicago auto pros.
William_Wallace
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A shout out to Budget I appreciate you sending me the product. This forum has good folks. I’m looking forward to using it sending you this back
It’s called a Cream Coating (clear gel) from Einstein, it does harden and form normal high spots. where you either have to get them off by hand or machine with a polish, 8 minute work time, is naphtha based has Cquartz smell, it flashes and claims to be 9h I have no way of knowing this it may be true it is quite durable. Sheets water better than other coatings. And advised not to wash for 7 days. It claims 12-24 months durability. I’m not sure on the durability myself I have it on my roof only for under a year.
The product is pretty cool to work with it. It’s like a crumbly jello that turns to liquid once you body heat from your hand applying the coating starts to transfer to the applicator.
