imported_BretFraz
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llbts1 said:
Is Clearkote Quick Shine Worth it?
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imported_Intermezzo
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After Scottwax, I was one of the first ppl here to try Quik Shine and my initial impressions were good. However, the more I used it, the more I was impressed with how easy it wipes off and how slick a surface it leaves. It definitely leaves a slicker surface than other QD's like Pinnacle Crystal Mist and is much quicker to buff out as well.
http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9495
Bret,
You wrote:
"Well, considering the lack of objective information about Quick Shine from a few of its fans, about all I can do is make assumptions."
Well, you really seem to hold some pretty strong opinions....all based on some assumptions your making.
"I can't see what's so unique or different about it compared to all the other QD's on the market."
"I don't see how Quik Shine is any better or different than any other QD out there"
"If you know something about the product that I or anyone else does not know, why not share it with the community?"
Listen to yourself.......you sound like you've actually tried the product. I've never heard such close-minded statements here on Autopia ever...and I've been a member here since 2001.
Dude, just relax will you? It's just a QD! LoL Do you have something against its growing popularity??
http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9495
Bret,
You wrote:
"Well, considering the lack of objective information about Quick Shine from a few of its fans, about all I can do is make assumptions."
Well, you really seem to hold some pretty strong opinions....all based on some assumptions your making.
"I can't see what's so unique or different about it compared to all the other QD's on the market."
"I don't see how Quik Shine is any better or different than any other QD out there"
"If you know something about the product that I or anyone else does not know, why not share it with the community?"
Listen to yourself.......you sound like you've actually tried the product. I've never heard such close-minded statements here on Autopia ever...and I've been a member here since 2001.
Dude, just relax will you? It's just a QD! LoL Do you have something against its growing popularity??
SergC
wax on...stress off...
Tony,
Totally agree with You.
I'm surprised, that it's coming from one of the most respectful people in "Detailing World":nixweiss
Serg Conon
Totally agree with You.
I'm surprised, that it's coming from one of the most respectful people in "Detailing World":nixweiss
Serg Conon
Bret Wrote - Well, considering the lack of objective information about Quick Shine from a few of its fans, about all I can do is make assumptions.
Actually there is something you can do. You could take advantage of Scottwax's generous offer to send you a sample of the product and give it a try. I'm not saying your going to fall in love with it, you may hate it. But when you make those statements you will have some personal hands on experience giving your statements much more credibility.
Bret Wrote -If you know something about the product that I or anyone else does not know, why not share it with the community? Bret I can't add anything that has not already been posted. I do find this product easier to use than others I have tried. Best Regards, Larry
Actually there is something you can do. You could take advantage of Scottwax's generous offer to send you a sample of the product and give it a try. I'm not saying your going to fall in love with it, you may hate it. But when you make those statements you will have some personal hands on experience giving your statements much more credibility.
Bret Wrote -If you know something about the product that I or anyone else does not know, why not share it with the community? Bret I can't add anything that has not already been posted. I do find this product easier to use than others I have tried. Best Regards, Larry
imported_BretFraz
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Tony,
I've got nothing against QS or Clearkote. But I have serious reservations about some of the stuff I've read. All I'm asking is for some added information. I dug thru the archives and read your review as well as a few others. My comment about "a few of its fans" was not in direct reference to you.
My position is not about QD's or Clearkote or any product. It has everything to do with some of the claims I've read about a product line (not an individual product) that seem specious and questionable.
I want to know WHY these claims are being made.
I want to know WHAT testing, comparitive and analytical, has been done.
I want to know WHO has a personal interest in the promotion of this brand.
I feel some of this hype could potentially mislead community members, especially those who are new and were not here in the "good ol days" when we had very active and in depth debates about products and techniques. Tony, are you telling me that you do not remember the discussions that went on at Autopia? Are you telling me that no one is allowed to question what a product is and why it works the way it does? Are you telling me I should just STFU and accept whatever people say about something without questioning it?
If you truly have not heard more closed minded statements in your time here, I don't know what to say. I think I'm entitled to question statements and motives. Are you telling me I'm not? I mean, you questioned mine, right?
I've got nothing against QS or Clearkote. But I have serious reservations about some of the stuff I've read. All I'm asking is for some added information. I dug thru the archives and read your review as well as a few others. My comment about "a few of its fans" was not in direct reference to you.
My position is not about QD's or Clearkote or any product. It has everything to do with some of the claims I've read about a product line (not an individual product) that seem specious and questionable.
I want to know WHY these claims are being made.
I want to know WHAT testing, comparitive and analytical, has been done.
I want to know WHO has a personal interest in the promotion of this brand.
I feel some of this hype could potentially mislead community members, especially those who are new and were not here in the "good ol days" when we had very active and in depth debates about products and techniques. Tony, are you telling me that you do not remember the discussions that went on at Autopia? Are you telling me that no one is allowed to question what a product is and why it works the way it does? Are you telling me I should just STFU and accept whatever people say about something without questioning it?
If you truly have not heard more closed minded statements in your time here, I don't know what to say. I think I'm entitled to question statements and motives. Are you telling me I'm not? I mean, you questioned mine, right?
imported_BretFraz
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rad21 said:
imported_BretFraz
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llbts1 said:
Credibility is exactly the reason I've opened this can of worms. Don't forget that I have no solid opinion of the products or the entire line. I've never used it. I'm just trying to find out WHY some of these claims are being made, WHAT criteria is being used to make them, and ultimately I'm trying to get to the bottom line about WHAT Clearkote products really are.
All these posts ignore the bottom line which is, WHAT is in these products and WHY do they work the way they do. Products like Zaino, Blackfire, and Klasse were scrutinized to the nth degree by Autopians. All I'm trying to do is apply the same scrutiny to Clearkote and ask others to do the same. I don't understand why I've received so much flak for this. WHY is Clearkote exempt from the historically exacting demands of Autopians?
1. My only claim is that Quikshine is the best QD I've used. The second best? Formula113's BeadX. True, the guy who runs Formula113 is not a popular guy around here, and his wax has a decent shine but poor durability, but BeadX is a damn good QD.
2. I have tested it side by side with Mothers QD, Meguiars #34 and Wax Shops Slick Stuff and to me, Quikshine leaves the paint slicker and shinier.
3. My only interest is that Clearkote stay in business so I can continue to buy Quikshine and Vanilla Moose and for those days where no shade is available, Moose Wax. Purely selfish reasons on my part, but not financial.
I would not give a favorable review to any product that I didn't feel deserves it. I know that people look at the pictures I post and want to know what I use. There is no way I would suggest anything but a quality product that performs well. Last thing I want is a PM box full of hate mail because people spent their hard earned money on products that do not live up to what I think of them.
Do others stand to make some money off Clearkote? Yeah, if they are distributers, they can. Nothing wrong with that as long as they are upfront about it and don't make outlandish claims.
No, because I do not know the exact ingredients of the product, but I do think it is petroleum based like other Clearkote products. I'll e-mail Mr. Glass and see what I can find out.
Why is S100 so shiny? Why is it so slick? I don't know that either, but it is and I am happy with the results.
SergC
wax on...stress off...
Scottwax said:
Bret, I can't tell you why it works, and I can't tell you what's in it. I would think the mfg would have to release any info or get it analyzed by a lab. Im afraid thats a little over my head. (thats not hard to do) I can tell you I am satisfied with the results. Others may not be, but to date I am happy with it.
ShowroomLincoln, I respectfully disagree with you regarding opinions. I feel that it is a true disservice to Autopians and guest for folks to give opinions without fact and or use of a product whether good or bad. I also do not feel that it is fair to a company to do the same without fact and or experience. I came here to learn a little and I got hooked.(my wife hates you all) I read alot here and have tried to make informed decisions. If I thought that the opinions here were based on speculation I would have been gone long ago. I don't believe that, you guys are just to good at this. With that said , we are in your yard and will play by your rules. Best Regards, Larry (and goodnight)
ShowroomLincoln, I respectfully disagree with you regarding opinions. I feel that it is a true disservice to Autopians and guest for folks to give opinions without fact and or use of a product whether good or bad. I also do not feel that it is fair to a company to do the same without fact and or experience. I came here to learn a little and I got hooked.(my wife hates you all) I read alot here and have tried to make informed decisions. If I thought that the opinions here were based on speculation I would have been gone long ago. I don't believe that, you guys are just to good at this. With that said , we are in your yard and will play by your rules. Best Regards, Larry (and goodnight)
Don't want to stray from the subject but was searching for 'quick shine' via google and found this product...
http://www.1stenvirosafety.com/products/quick_shine.htm
I've never used CK/QS before but this looks a similiar product. {comes in ready use and concerntrate as well}. Not sure abour pricing. Perhaps you folks in the US can enquire?
http://www.1stenvirosafety.com/products/quick_shine.htm
I've never used CK/QS before but this looks a similiar product. {comes in ready use and concerntrate as well}. Not sure abour pricing. Perhaps you folks in the US can enquire?
domZ'sp5
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To each his own.
DomZ
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This is the response I got from Everett about Quikshine's properties.
"As far as what QS is made of. I will tell you it is a water based polish.
It contains NO Silicones, TeTeflon's, Polymers, Alcohol, ammonia or abrasives.
That is why unlike other QD'S you can use it on everything inside the car, except cloth and carpet. And use it on everything outside the car except the tires. Due to the anti-static prosperities of the product it actually repels dust. That it why it is such a great furniture polish."
About the Data sheet (which I have requested a copy):
"Yes I do have a MSDS sheet. It is a single page. Nothing about fire on the second page due to the fact that QS is a water based polish."
And about any comments about Clearkote products:
" love the conversation on Autopia. I may not agree with everything said but I respect everyone's right to say what they feel about products.
Here again good or bad I will not interject any input to any remarks made on the web site. If someone wants to call me or e-mail me. I will be more then happy to answer there questions."
You can find his e-mail address on his site.
Hope this clears up some things.
"As far as what QS is made of. I will tell you it is a water based polish.
It contains NO Silicones, TeTeflon's, Polymers, Alcohol, ammonia or abrasives.
That is why unlike other QD'S you can use it on everything inside the car, except cloth and carpet. And use it on everything outside the car except the tires. Due to the anti-static prosperities of the product it actually repels dust. That it why it is such a great furniture polish."
About the Data sheet (which I have requested a copy):
"Yes I do have a MSDS sheet. It is a single page. Nothing about fire on the second page due to the fact that QS is a water based polish."
And about any comments about Clearkote products:
" love the conversation on Autopia. I may not agree with everything said but I respect everyone's right to say what they feel about products.
Here again good or bad I will not interject any input to any remarks made on the web site. If someone wants to call me or e-mail me. I will be more then happy to answer there questions."
You can find his e-mail address on his site.
Hope this clears up some things.
I have used Final Detail, Final Inspection, Spay& Shine, EOne, Zymol Detail......nothing works like quick Shine...I can't explain it, but it's faster to use..I use less..and the car's finish feels slicker than whale sh**!!
It does a better job on glass than any other QD I've tried...it really is a better product. If it makes my job faster and it feels better on the car...why not??
The other point is...it makes the finish gloosier than all the others, too.
It does a better job on glass than any other QD I've tried...it really is a better product. If it makes my job faster and it feels better on the car...why not??
The other point is...it makes the finish gloosier than all the others, too.
imported_Intermezzo
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bretfraz said:
It's one thing to question why and how a product works, but I just feel that you're going above and beyond that. Not saying you should just "STFU" and accept things without question....but perhaps some of your comments like........
"I can't see what's so unique or different about it compared to all the other QD's on the market."
"I don't see how Quik Shine is any better or different than any other QD out there"
.......would hold a bit more water if you've actually tried it out for yourself.
Yes, I remember the camraderie of the forum when I first joined and I miss it just as much as any other veteran here. One thing's for sure, no one back then would have posted some of the stuff you did without even having tried the product. No one back then would flame another person for making accolades about a certain product. If you (& a few others) have a problem with ppl jumping on the ClearKote bandwagon, deal with it in other ways instead of making public insinuations about ppl who may or may not have a financial interest in its popularity. Back then, ppl were jumping on the Klasse, Blitz & Souveran bandwagon.... now ppl are jumping on ClearKote's. Big whoop! You're worried about newbies being misled? Please show me threads where a newbie purchased QuickShine and was very disappointed.
If you want to question how and why a certain product works, then fine, go ahead and do so. Just don't be such a #$&*#* about it....
Gadfly
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Oh,My! I just asked the question as to whether Quick Shine was worth the price. What a response! I'ts like a rolled a grenade into this fourm. Guys, be gentle!
I have used Quick Shine, EO, Platinum, Spray and Wipe (diluted 50 percent) and 3M Gloss Enhancer. They are all satisfactory QDs. Different characteristics, perhaps, but all good.
My orginal query was whether QS was worth $46.00 versus 3M Gloss Enhancer at $25.88? A judgement call. Not a "Call to Arms."
I have used Quick Shine, EO, Platinum, Spray and Wipe (diluted 50 percent) and 3M Gloss Enhancer. They are all satisfactory QDs. Different characteristics, perhaps, but all good.
My orginal query was whether QS was worth $46.00 versus 3M Gloss Enhancer at $25.88? A judgement call. Not a "Call to Arms."