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In the Spring I plan on taking care of some hideous swirls with 3M SMR, should I still use a paint cleaner like Pinnacle Paint Cleansing Lotion (PPCL), Klasse AIO or Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Cleaner afterwards? If so, which one would be recommended?
 
I generally use a paint cleaner, as the 3M SMR will not remove all the embedded grime, etc The PPCL or Klasse are good choices.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Michael H [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Machine applied, normally only do 3M Imperial Hand Glaze (IHG), Kalsse Sealant Glaze or waxes by hand. [/b]</blockquote>:confused: He said he was working by hand. Of course I would recommend a machine but if he doesn't have one . . .

I can't recommend a hand polish. I got visible marring from every polish I used as evaluated under 1400 watts of light. I was so angry when I saw this that I drove 90 miles the next day and bought a PC!!

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Yes, I have a pc. model i think is 7424, 6" with various speeds..



So you'd only recommend using paint cleaners (Klasse AIO, PPCL and MMPPC) by machine, puterbum?
 
OH!!! I read it wrong! Sorry, 100% my fault!



Nope, I had fine results with the OLD PPCL by hand....the new stuff is going to be shipped to CMA for a refund! I hate that stuff compared to the old formula.



I use AIO by hand but will soon be trying it by machine because others have reported excellent results. AIO will fill its own marring, I was just being paranoid . . . ;)
 
Whats wrong with the 'new' ppcl? Thats what I was leaning towards as my paint cleaner...



I'd prefer something without fillers and non abrasive. I believe AIO is very minutely abrasive and seeing as I plan on using a sealant, I'd rather stay away from fillers.
 
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Whats wrong with the 'new' ppcl? Thats what I was leaning towards as my paint cleaner...</blockquote>

The new PPCL is more agressive than the old formula. The new forumla has a chemical smell, and leaves visable marring.:down
 
All this talk of all these mild cleaners leaving little marks here and there is making me want to just splat some glaze on my car and follow that up with some silicone wax and declare victory over swirls!
 
I also noticed some marring when I used PPCL by hand. I had much better results when its used with a PC....
 
are they necessary now?? i have read a thread where a person used sonax full effect on the paint to do the same thing?? what is the best brand out there? Cquartz iron x or Finish Kare paint decontamination systems?
 
It really is not necessary, but for the more expensive cars that really have not been taken care of, it does help. These products are not cheep, so as long as the car is well taken care of, it might be overkill.
 
bmw5541 said:
It really is not necessary, but for the more expensive cars that really have not been taken care of, it does help. These products are not cheep, so as long as the car is well taken care of, it might be overkill.
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i think most of it is pretty well priced compared to other product. the finsh kare system is around 40 bucks at most e-tailers and iron-x soap gel is 20 bucks...\
 
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