insanely priced zymol waxes

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2000firebird

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so i was looking at the zymol concours wax reading up to see what made it worth $150.

so i type it into google and i get a site advertising it for sale. they had 'similar items', one was called 'zymol destiny estate glaze' which was over $400 a jar and then there was a 'zymol vintage glaze' which was over $1,500 :shocked :nervous2: heres a link, remove it if not allowed sorry. doubt anyone will buy from them though. http://www.autoanything.com/product...d=1704&se=car_care_zymol_destiny_estate_glaze

so i was wondering if anyone has ever tried the destiny or vintage at these crazy prices, and the typical wax related things like how long it would last etc.. anyone?
 
I can't imagine anyone falling for this scam.



But, I guarantee that someone will buy it, and the seller will laugh all the way to the bank.



Just think, If he only sells 10 of these, that's over 4-GRAND!!!!



As the infamous P.T. Barnum once said.... "There's a sucker born every minute."
 
While these have been discussed previously (hey, you get free refills for life!) I've determined that it's actually cheaper to hire Pamela Anderson (or Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, or Salma Hayek) to come to my house and apply good ol' Turtle Wax while I watch.



Oddly enough, Jennifer Aniston declined to quote me on this project.
 
Mike-in-Orange said:
While these have been discussed previously (hey, you get free refills for life!) I've determined that it's actually cheaper to hire Pamela Anderson (or Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, or Salma Hayek) to come to my house and apply good ol' Turtle Wax while I watch.



Oddly enough, Jennifer Aniston declined to quote me on this project.
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sorry to burst your bubble but i dont think ANY of those women would even reply to your request let alone wax YOUR car for $1500.oo........WAKE UP outa your dream buddy lol!!!! :lol
 
Zymöl makes the Royale Glaze which costs between US$6.000 - 10.000, dependign on country...



Ah, they claim it is so pure it is actually edible (but tastes like...).



Of course... Obviously...



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The best part of that wax isn't even the ridiculous price, it's the method of application. I think one of them says apply it with your bare hands. What?
 
Fact, that human skin is far less absorbent than any of our applicators therefore you waste a lot less product. But I don't know the health issues.
 
David Wyllie, the CEO of Victoria Wax (similar bare hands technique; very high quality product but signifiacntly cheaper) wrote this about the technique:



WHY APPLY WAX WITH BARE HANDS? by David Wyllie Sr. & Jr.



"Applying wax with the bare hands is not a new technique, it was used in the 60's, and I suspect that it had been used by people at sometime or another over the last 100 years. It just produces the best possible look and protection. Wax is at its very best when the wax from the original jar or tin is in that same concentrations. The hands are non-porous and no carrier solvents will be absorbed. What is in the jar or tin is now in the proper concentrations on the finish. Bare hand waxing will benefit any wax-based product by any manufacture. In the right hands it could make the difference between a good job and an excellent job. If you are like me, waxing the finish is the final step and the most rewarding. One coat of wax is not enough and ten coats seems reasonable. We are all guilty of over using wax

applicators to the point that we have to wring out the liquid solvent collected every once in a while to continue getting a good mix. And most of us seal the moist wax applicator back in the jar or tin to be ready for the next round of waxing. I am not saying that any one particular technique is for everyone, I just know what I like and find rewarding. If you wish to use a wax applicator, keep a few extra on hand so the wax is applied full strength and not diluted with the carrier solvent. Too much carrier solvent in an applicator pad could easily remove some of the wax as well. Messaging in and spreading thinly by the bare hands has its benefits too. You could do a test right now, you must have a high-end wax in your collection of car care products. Just use the finger tips first to apply a small amount to the driver's front top fender. Work it in and massage it around, let it stand. Slowly you will see a large amount of wax attaching to the surface. 1000s of small specks of carnauba and other waxes depending on the manufacture's formula. Buff with a clean towel and repeat in a few minutes. A major bonus

to many of the waxes coming to market in the last few year is the use of extremely low (VOC) volatile organic content solvents, many of these solvents are used in the skin care industry and have been adapted with a multitude of different high boiling points and KB ratings. In other words don't bare hand a wax that is stinky."
 
:bigups I agree hand applying wax is a great method. No wasted wax on the applicator and you can put on a nice even coat.



On another note, this thread comes up every so often and yet again everyone has started bashing Zymol and their products and yet again the bashers are people who have never even tried Zymol. Now pay close attention to my next statement . . . $1500 or $6500 is a ridiculous price to pay for wax. However, I do use Vintage on my car. I did not pay $1500 for it though. I got it as part of the Pebble Beach Sampler which costs significantly less than $1500. Now, I'd also like to state that the same/similar results you get with Zymol can be achieved with other products and proper application and for much less money than $1500.



As with anything in detailing product choice is a matter of personal preference and budget. I don't bash people who use other products and I would appreciate it if people would stop bashing Zymol. Why can't we all just get along?? :clap:
 
Mikey,



Considering the one-by-one price of these waxes, the Pebble Beach kit is a well priced item. The waxes inside are even not that small, so for carnauba junkies, it is a considerable alternative.
 
I think that the price is just something to make those who don't know assume it is a good product. For instance, I know of a polish line that was introduced several years ago at about $6-8 a bottle. It did not sell very well. So, a few years later they spruced up the bottle a bit and sold it for twice that and it caught on with a cult-like following. I am so glad I am not in marketing.



-GT
 
Tasty said:
The best part of that wax isn't even the ridiculous price, it's the method of application. I think one of them says apply it with your bare hands. What?
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The Zymol waxes need to be warmed for proper application. Body temperature is just right to get the waxes and oils to properly mix.



I tried applying Zymol Concours with a foam applicator and a by hand on a cool day. By had it applied fine and buffed out nice. By foam applicator it applied fine but streaked on buff out.
 
GTScott said:
I think that the price is just something to make those who don't know assume it is a good product. For instance, I know of a polish line that was introduced several years ago at about $6-8 a bottle. It did not sell very well. So, a few years later they spruced up the bottle a bit and sold it for twice that and it caught on with a cult-like following. I am so glad I am not in marketing.



-GT
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I'm sure that the price is partly a marketing gimmick. However, it might also be high due to higher manufacturing costs because they only make limited quantities of the Estate Glazes. The natural ingredients (also a marketing gimmick) also likely make it more expensive to manufacture as compared to waxes which use petro chemical softeners. I also understand that Estate Glazes are hand made. The container of Concours I have is "autographed" by the guys who made it.
 
well if for the 1500$ one you get free lifetime refills.. wouldnt there be some kind of limit? like if i owned a detailing business i could just use that wax on all of my clients cars and i wouldnt have to buy any other waxes, just keep using that one, and eventually ul make back that 1500 and wont be paying for waxes anymore
 
2000firebird said:
well if for the 1500$ one you get free lifetime refills.. wouldnt there be some kind of limit? like if i owned a detailing business i could just use that wax on all of my clients cars and i wouldnt have to buy any other waxes, just keep using that one, and eventually ul make back that 1500 and wont be paying for waxes anymore
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Apparently you have to wait a certain length of time between refills. I'm not sure what that time period is, but from what I've read (from other posts like this one) your scenario wouldn't pay off.
 
superstring said:
Apparently you have to wait a certain length of time between refills. I'm not sure what that time period is, but from what I've read (from other posts like this one) your scenario wouldn't pay off.
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The maximum number of refills you can get is one a year.



Ben
 
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