Input on a lighting problem please?

[davekt]

Awesome set up there.

 

[Accumulator]

Yeah...but I simply can't see marring under fluorescent lighting Now if somebody made that thing with incandescents I'd be interested. No, I'm not about to fabricate one myself, and I have no idea where I'd park it when not in use..but still, I'd be interested.

 

[brwill2005]

I have been thinking this may work. I saw some LED puck lights at Costco. They are battery powered and since they use LED's I imagine they are quite bright.

 

[David Fermani]

Here's another way you could do it. This is a setup that OctaneGuy put together. You could build your's off this idea.

 

[Accumulator]

I have been thinking this may work. I saw some LED puck lights at Costco...I imagine they are quite bright.

You won't know until you try, but it can be funny what does/doesn't show marring. I can get things 100% perfect in numerous types of lighting and *still* have something show up under some conditions that I failed to simulate :nixweiss Colors like silver make for a real challenge in this regard while colors like black seem easy...I can spot most anything on black with just halogens.



If you try the LEDs, see how they work on a "tricky color" that hides marring and let us know.



David Fermani- Yeah, a pair of tripods and some other materials, a few lights of the user's preference..and a little thought and work...for people who do correction on a regular basis it could sure make sense to put something like that together.

 

[brwill2005]

BTW, I was thinking more for interior work.

 

[Accumulator]

OOPS..I'm getting my threads/topics mixed up

 

[Richard@BlackWOW]

It's funny, I'm working on a solution right now for my own shop--I don't need a mobile set up anymore. I had envisioned something similar to the yellow frame and lights but with point light sources--but I wanted adjustability to be able to raise and lower the lights to accommodate a large lifted truck or a Porsche. Any idea whose shop that is and who made that lighting setup???



Richard

Here's another way you could do it. This is a setup that OctaneGuy put together. You could build your's off this idea.

 

[David Fermani]

It's funny, I'm working on a solution right now for my own shop--I don't need a mobile set up anymore. I had envisioned something similar to the yellow frame and lights but with point light sources--but I wanted adjustability to be able to raise and lower the lights to accommodate a large lifted truck or a Porsche. Any idea whose shop that is and who made that lighting setup???



Richard

I PM'd you their name. They built it themselves. It's has wheels and is mobile and plugs in with just 1 outlet/cord. The lights used are the same that are in a professional paint booth. Not your basic Home Depot florescents. You could actually see the compound marks/swirls in the white LS in the picture. If you're doing it with basic floresecents, it actually hurts when there's too much light. It drowns out the clarity and color in what your trying to see. Especially on interiors.

 

[Richard@BlackWOW]

Thanks! Guess I will have to post what I come up with as well. :xyxthumbs Thanks!!



Richard

I PM'd you their name. They built it themselves. It's has wheels and is mobile and plugs in with just 1 outlet/cord. The lights used are the same that are in a professional paint booth. Not your basic Home Depot florescents. You could actually see the compound marks/swirls in the white LS in the picture. If you're doing it with basic floresecents, it actually hurts when there's too much light. It drowns out the clarity and color in what your trying to see. Especially on interiors.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Right on. . . thanks for the update. Would you say they are brighter than the 4W leads one to believe?

LED's are a lot more efficient than even fluorescent lights, so you can get a lot of light for not much watts, hence Picus's comment that they generate no heat. Great find, BTW, thanks!

 

[Changeling]

AMDin93103- yeah, that was a great suggestion :xyxthumbs Heh heh, newfangled technology...I need to get with it



Picus- I'd get that fluorescent trouble light, they're just *so* handy that I bet you'd use it a lot. Mine are very well-sealed so I even use them when doing undercarriages..they get soaking wet/really dirty but no problems at all (yeah, I do have them on a GFI ).

Man I hope everyone reads and heads that last sentence regarding the GFI! I got zapped about ten years ago, shook me up pretty bad, but it could easily have killed me.

Now I have GFI's in all my bathrooms, at the kitchen sink, and all outlets outside!!!!!!!!

Changeling

 

[Nica]

Very good information being shared here on lighting, just thought I'd share my set up in my garage. Total of 26 T8 40W 4ft Floresent lighting, sure do help but I'll be changing them out to the T5 as they are much brighter.

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oh and here is what it looks like at night:

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Lighting sure makes a big difference :2thumbs:

 

[David Fermani]

Your garage would look much brighter if the walls were painted white and the floors were coated tan of light gray. Blue absorbes light. Nice set up.

 

[Accumulator]

Nica- That's a nice clean shop :xyxthumbs



Here's an experiment you might try, considering the silver vehicle (do this at night):



Remove the translucent plastic cover from your overhead door fixture, exposing the incandescent bulb(s). Turn out the flourescents and inspect the silver using only the light from those incandescents. See if you spot any previously-invisible marring.



Or maybe you *wouldn't* want to try that experiment after all; it was sorta a drag when I discovered that my paint wasn't as marring-free as I thought it was! Started me on a long (and expensive) quest....

 

[Nica]

David Fermani - Yea I know what you mean about the color, it does absorbe some of the light and the floor does not help...but I'm going to be laying some EPOXY on the floor and it should help to reflect the lights. I was thinking of re-painting it white but I actually don't mind the color to much...besides the wife picked it out



Accumulator - oooooh thanks for the tip, I'll give a try and I know what you mean about an expensive quest...this detailing got me wallet spining hahaha it's all good though...anything to make my baby look good Now that I think about it my Lexus is due for a detail . Thanks for the tip.

 

[Accumulator]

Nica- Heh heh, don't thank me yet...if you spot marring that was previously invisible you might not be so happy about it



I brought it up because my previous shop had a zillion bright fluorescent lights. I'd get our silver cars really nice and bring them home.. only to see residual marring under the incandescent lights in my home garage :think: Based on that, when I built my current shop I had some incandescents hung from the ceiling. While I use my fluorescents all the time (my current shop has dozens of 8' tubes), and the halogens when I polish, I've learned to use incandescents for meticulous final inspection and thus avoid the kind of surprises that used to bug me.

 

[Nica]

Accumulator - this is very informative buddy, I'll be checking this weekend and I'm sure I'll find some if not lots of marring...it's all good that just mean's I'll have to spend some time with my baby I've noticed that light vehicles like white and silver are very difficult to see the imperfections so this tip will come in handy when doing such vehicles.