In search of the ultimate sealant for Yellow

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JCturboT

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The time has come for me to detail my Detonator Yellow SRT-8 Superbee.

In the past I have used Collinite 845, Klasse AIO, S100, Meguiars 26, and Duragloss Aquawax which really brings out a shine/gloss in the paint....



I'm sure you all remember Superbee364 post-

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing-product-discussion/97819-my-ultima-experience.html



as well as this post-

http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-brag/84268-super-bee-yea-its-got-hemi.html



Both of these fine cars are identical to mine.





and this one-

http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-brag/98755-my-yellow-fit.html



These sealants are high on my list-

Ultima UPGP

Duragloss 105

Opti-seal

Finish Kare FK1000P



Like I has stated earlier I really like the look/ease of Duragloss Aquawax and uses DG901 car wash soap so I am sure DG105 would work great for me as well.



Now I know 99% of the shine is in the prep work beforehand and not the LSP but I still would like to hear everyone's thoughts anyway.



Jeff
 
I've never used Ultima or Opti-seal before. From what you have listed, I really like FK 1000P + Pink Wax or DG111 followed up with FK 425.
 
Opti-Seal looks great on yellow, got a customer with a yellow Z06 with extensive clear bra coverage (he tracks the car) so not only does OS give it a nice wet shine, but there isn't any build up along the edges of the clear bras.
 
Easy and clear answer from me on this one. I had my yellow Mazda Protege 5 for 8 years. In those 8 years, I had the chance to try a *lot* of different LSP's on it. That includes several on your list, such as FK 1000p, UPGP, and Opti-Seal.



Bottom line for me was that Opti-Seal simply looked the best overall. This included using various 'nubas as well, and while the nubas looked very good, they did *not* look noticeably better to me than Opti-Seal did. So, when you consider how easy OS is to apply, and that it lasts longer than the 'nubas, OS was definitely the way to go for me. It has very good depth for a sealant (better than UPGP and FK 1000p). It slightly darkens the paint (which is why I don't really like it on silver) and gives yellow a very nice, rich glow.



Opti-Seal on yellow FTW!
 
JCturboT said:
Never thought of BWD for a lighter color car,thought it was perferred for dark vehicles.



Jeff
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I used it on my white vette and white tahoe. Makes white pop!

It does make dark vehicles (especially red) look great, but it works nicely for lighter colored vehicles as well; incredible shine.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Easy and clear answer from me on this one. I had my yellow Mazda Protege 5 for 8 years. In those 8 years, I had the chance to try a *lot* of different LSP's on it. That includes several on your list, such as FK 1000p, UPGP, and Opti-Seal.



Bottom line for me was that Opti-Seal simply looked the best overall. This included using various 'nubas as well, and while the nubas looked very good, they did *not* look noticeably better to me than Opti-Seal did. So, when you consider how easy OS is to apply, and that it lasts longer than the 'nubas, OS was definitely the way to go for me. It has very good depth for a sealant (better than UPGP and FK 1000p). It slightly darkens the paint (which is why I don't really like it on silver) and gives yellow a very nice, rich glow.



Opti-Seal on yellow FTW!
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Rob,

Was there something that changed your mind from post #70 to recommend Opti-seal over UPGP?



Just curious as I have read every post I could find regarding UPGP.



http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing-product-discussion/106083-does-upgp-work-6.html



Jeff
 
JCturboT said:
Rob,

Was there something that changed your mind from post #70 to recommend Opti-seal over UPGP?



Just curious as I have read every post I could find regarding UPGP.



http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing-product-discussion/106083-does-upgp-work-6.html



Jeff
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Hey Jeff-



Yes, those *initial* results with UPGP were very impressive. One thing that eventually became clear to me was the fact that UPGP looked very good immediately, while OS looks better after it has cured for a day (or more).



I found the gloss of UPGP to be very good, and again, the initial results were striking. But after living with it for awhile longer, I noticed that it didn't seem to have the same depth as the OS did on the yellow paint. And that really is the main, and probably only, difference between the two in the looks department: depth.



I also mentioned in that post how UPGP was easier to apply than OS and I didn't get streaks. Well, as it turned out, that was because of the MF applicator that came with the UPGP. Once I started using a MF applicator with OS as well, I no longer had any issues to speak of regarding streaks. I was using a sponge applicator with OS before.



This is all very subjective stuff, and there most certainly is not a major difference between OS and UPGP (or just about any LSP for that matter) but over the long term, I did feel that the OS looked better on yellow than the UPGP, despite being very impressed initially with UPGP.
 
If you are bent on a sealant, than BFWD is probably the best bet. I think yellow looks great when its deep and wet, not shiny. OS is not a bad choice if you want easy. If you liked the look of Megs 26, you'll love BFWD. If you like blinding shine, go with FK1000P or Z2.
 
yakky said:
If you are bent on a sealant, than BFWD is probably the best bet. I think yellow looks great when its deep and wet, not shiny. OS is not a bad choice if you want easy. If you liked the look of Megs 26, you'll love BFWD. If you like blinding shine, go with FK1000P or Z2.
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Yakky,

Not really hell bent on a sealant but the last two waxes I used (Collonite 845, S100) really didn't have the "POP" I was after.



To be honest with you, the best look I have obtainted so far was with Duragloss Aquawax. The paint was deep, wet, and the Aqua Wax darkened my already dark Detonator Yellow paint.



I really love Aquawax.



Let me ask you guys this-which wax or sealant has properties like AW?



Jeff
 
OS is close to AW, but less wet, more glassy, if that makes sense. FK1000P will have that depth but with a more hardshell look. BFWD will be like AW but with more of a carnauba glow vs a true depth. Z2 might actually be exactly what you are after lookswise, but the DG105 might be close enough.
 
JCturboT said:
Yakky,

Not really hell bent on a sealant but the last two waxes I used (Collonite 845, S100) really didn't have the "POP" I was after.

To be honest with you, the best look I have obtainted so far was with Duragloss Aquawax. The paint was deep, wet, and the Aqua Wax darkened my already dark Detonator Yellow paint.

I really love Aquawax.

Let me ask you guys this-which wax or sealant has properties like AW?

Jeff
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Whichever sealant you use, there's surely a technical difference in appearance.

But, IMO, that difference is not significant. It's a very subtle effect, that probably will only be noticed by you.



Since you appear to be quite hardcore in detailing, IMO, why not do something a bit different but more drastic....such as going back to Square 1 and wet-sanding the finish, assuming the clearcoat allows this to be done.



Once properly sanded, prep it properly, and then layer your sealant.

IMO, this'll give ya a RELATIVELY more significant diff vs merely putting layers of another sealant.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Hey Jeff-



Yes, those *initial* results with UPGP were very impressive. One thing that eventually became clear to me was the fact that UPGP looked very good immediately, while OS looks better after it has cured for a day (or more).



I found the gloss of UPGP to be very good, and again, the initial results were striking. But after living with it for awhile longer, I noticed that it didn't seem to have the same depth as the OS did on the yellow paint. And that really is the main, and probably only, difference between the two in the looks department: depth.



I also mentioned in that post how UPGP was easier to apply than OS and I didn't get streaks. Well, as it turned out, that was because of the MF applicator that came with the UPGP. Once I started using a MF applicator with OS as well, I no longer had any issues to speak of regarding streaks. I was using a sponge applicator with OS before.



This is all very subjective stuff, and there most certainly is not a major difference between OS and UPGP (or just about any LSP for that matter) but over the long term, I did feel that the OS looked better on yellow than the UPGP, despite being very impressed initially with UPGP.
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Rob,

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

OS is looking like it just might be the sealant I am looking for.



Jeff
 
yakky,

Thanks for the sealant info.



I has used Z2/Z5 on my Solar Yellow SRT-4 and while it shined beautifully it lacked depth.

But, it was a lighter shade of Yellow and I did not top it with a wax so I am not comparing apples-to-apples.



The one plus here is that both my Brother as well as my good friend have all the Zaino free for my use so that might play into my decision.



Regarding your comment on DG105-

I have read many a great reviews on it and almost purchased it when I was on the Duragloss site. I use DG901/902 car wash soap and, as mentioned, Aquawax but have also read some posts about it being rather sterile looking. Others have stated DG111 might be a better choice for lighter colors as it has more of the older Zaino look to it before the Pro line came into play.



Jeff

PS: How's that "underdog" Nufinish holding out in your test?
 
gigondaz said:
Whichever sealant you use, there's surely a technical difference in appearance.

But, IMO, that difference is not significant. It's a very subtle effect, that probably will only be noticed by you.



Since you appear to be quite hardcore in detailing, IMO, why not do something a bit different but more drastic....such as going back to Square 1 and wet-sanding the finish, assuming the clearcoat allows this to be done.



Once properly sanded, prep it properly, and then layer your sealant.

IMO, this'll give ya a RELATIVELY more significant diff vs merely putting layers of another sealant.
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gigondaz,

I know what you mean about the slight differences regarding waxes/sealants and I liked reading your post about the black Hondas equally prepped with Meguires Gold Class, makes you wonder if the high end polishes are really worth it.



Regarding me being a hardcore detailer -far from it actually- I just got my first polisher (Cyclo) and only recently have tried my hand at detailing.



Don't get me wrong-I have had several nice cars in the past and always took great care of them but with the recent addition of my SuperBee I am being super anal with it.

I would hate to do any type of wet sanding on it as it was always (till recently) a garage kept car and only has 6K miles on it.



Besides some light swirls in the paint, which I will M205 later this month, it is in prestine shape.



I just wanna try out some of the highly recommened LSP that I have read about here.



Jeff
 
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