jvcn said:
A not unreasonable point of view.
But consider: Are US cars worse (in reliability) than Japanese cars? Yes. Are they getting better? Definitely yes.
In contrast, German vehicles are bottom of the barrel in terms of reliability and initial problems yet sell for huge premia over both Japanese and US product. At least the US cars are cheap and are improving. One may not like their style, but it says something that cars like the Regal or the PT Cruiser are posting reliability/defect stats almost comparable to Honda/Toyota.
In addition, the 300C has definitely struck a chord with an important segment of the public. I'm not throwing away my Lexus, but I look forward to more competition in the reliability sweepstakes. Moreover, outside of Nissan, Honda, and Toyota, I wouldn't consider the other Japanese brands noticeably better than GM or Chrysler's better products -- not when price is taken into account.
If you're talking about Honda and Toyota in the first statement, and not Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc, then perhaps. I do agree on your take on German vehicles for the most part (I've seen nothing from VW to show me that they're not in the bottom of the barrel.)
If you ask me, Nissan isn't anything special either, and from my experiences, Honda's not quite as good as it was in the past (or maybe the extreme crappiness, in general, of domestic cars from the mid 70s or mid 90s just made them look at that much better.)
Toyota makes an excellent, but completely soul less product. Of course, that's still my opinion, but they're moving more towards making appliances than cars. The Celica (even though it was FWD and not all that quick) dying doesn't help. The Supra's gone. The MR-S (also on the chopping block, if I remember correctly,) is watered down compared to the old MR-2.
My car's far from perfect, but at least it keeps me enthusiastic and is a blast to drive. A lot of MB/Chyrsler/Dodge products are the same way. None of Toyota's new products apply there. I'd go as far as to say being an Autopian is part of being an enthusiast, and not many of us enjoy "appliance-like" cars. I guess it goes with the territory of making something semi-affordable, practical, and reliable, though.