I think I have met my match

Well David, I guess I jumped the gun then.

Working on the trunk, I started with surbuf m105. The deeper stuff was laughing at me.

I then went to 3k trizact and the laughing was louder.

1500 trizact, guess what? No effect on the deep stuff. :cursing:

I called the owner and informed him that the paint is not fixable via me. I would recommend a repaint. I will still do the interior and put a coat of BFWD on for him.

This is the first time that I told a client I could not fix the paint on a car. I guess it was going to happen sooner or later. ^#(^ :smile:
 
gmblack3 said:
Well David, I guess I jumped the gun then.

Working on the trunk, I started with surbuf m105. The deeper stuff was laughing at me.

I then went to 3k trizact and the laughing was louder.

1500 trizact, guess what? No effect on the deep stuff. :cursing:

I called the owner and informed him that the paint is not fixable via me. I would recommend a repaint. I will still do the interior and put a coat of BFWD on for him.

This is the first time that I told a client I could not fix the paint on a car. I guess it was going to happen sooner or later. ^#(^ :smile:
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I have a customer with a 88 7 series BMW. The car belonged to his Father and only has about 60k on the clock. However, his paint looks very similar to what you are looking at (actually his is worse) All I can offer is a thorough interior cleaning and a wash-n-wax. He must be happy with this arrangement as I see him bi-monthly. Can't win them all Bryan ~X(
 
gmblack3 said:
I called the owner and informed him that the paint is not fixable via me. I would recommend a repaint. I will still do the interior and put a coat of BFWD on for him.

This is the first time that I told a client I could not fix the paint on a car. I guess it was going to happen sooner or later. ^#(^ :smile:
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Great call Bryan. Sometimes we get ourselves in trouble by trying to do the impossible, armed with nothing more then some abrasive grains floating around in petroluem and power tools.

A true professional is one that will pass up a pay day because they realize the car's condition is beyond repair.
 
I had a guy call and ask if he could drop his car off while I was away, and i could work on it all weekend. I should have known better than to accept one sight unseen. It was thrashed! Some hillbilly with dirty wool pads and I'm guessing "vintage" 3M rocks in the bottle had been "detailing" it, there were no fewer than 4 clear coat failures - some big as a pie pan on this car. I called the guy, explained to problem, gave it a wash and wax and he was happy. He sold the car and only has me detail his new one.
 
Junebug said:
I had a guy call and ask if he could drop his car off while I was away, and i could work on it all weekend. I should have known better than to accept one sight unseen. It was thrashed! Some hillbilly with dirty wool pads and I'm guessing "vintage" 3M rocks in the bottle had been detailing it there were no fewer than 4 clear coat failures - some big as a pie pan on this car. I called the guy, explained to problem, gave it a wash and wax and he was happy. He sold the car and only has me detail his new one.
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So, tell us how you really feel about Tennessee detailers ^#(^

Regards,

Albert Gore III :-B
 
Ouch, I don't know if I've ever seen damage that bad just from a tunnel... seen plenty of trucks that were used to chase down trophies with that level of damage though:)
 
Were you able to at least get a 20 - 30% improvement?

Or was it not budging at all?


In the first pic it doesnt look half bad.
 
sorry to hear about a real "goner" but as other have mentioned - you can't win them all and its good to be smart enough to recognize those that are beyond what a professional detailer can do.
 
Flash Gordon;41495 At least the lines are in uniform pattern. Almost looks like a clear coat issue to me :spy: [/COLOR said:
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I think your right about that Flash :) I bet in a few months the clearcoat will be lifting off and deteriorating.Thats what it looks like to me .
 
That Sucks,

I have been playing around with my 2001 Chevy Tahoe without success in trying to remove some similar scratches on the hood and roof.

I own a 5? Bosch D/A and some 5 ?? pads, orange, white, etc. No luck with Meguires Ultimate Compound. Purchased a Porter Cable, still no luck.

Wished I had some yellow pads, and then I stumbled across Surbuf Pads. I was ready (I?m still going to buy them) to go buy some this morning at a the local woodshop store, until I saw this Post. :(

The reason I posting this is because I practicing on my 2001 Tahoe so I can attempted to work/fix my father-in laws vehicle?s, 2001 Yukon and 1999 Buick Century.

Guess what, the 2000 Yukon looks to be in the same shape as the Benz, No better or worse. He has even managed to make the rims look like that. That?s what 10 years of dish soap car wash looks like, lots of pressure during wash with hand towel, and throw in an accessional wax remover with an old heavy duty Black&Decker Orbital Buffer.

Hopefully, I can nock the edges of the scratches down and fill in with Wet Glaze 2.0
 
My first post! I normally just read, learn, sit back and marvel! But I have finally found a topic I have knowledge of!

I had a Honda Prelude (silver metallic, clear coated) that never saw a drive-thru car wash, always hand washed and waxed and lovingly cared for by me for 13 years. 85% of the paint was flawless. However, the front bumper, side mirrors and leading edge of the trunk lid looked EXACTLY like the Benz. Eventually, I bought a DA, pads and tried all combinations of polish and compound trying to remove these scratches. Nothing worked. The scratch reflections come from the scratches reaching down through the clear coat to the metallic base coat, the metallic making the scratches look particularly bright. If you want to remove THOSE flaws, you're going to have to compound the clear coat off!

All you can do is cover it up with polish, sealant and wax.

For me, I found 3M Imperial Glaze worked best to cover it up.
 
pjvosotas said:
My first post! I normally just read, learn, sit back and marvel! But I have finally found a topic I have knowledge of!

I had a Honda Prelude (silver metallic, clear coated) that never saw a drive-thru car wash, always hand washed and waxed and lovingly cared for by me for 13 years. 85% of the paint was flawless. However, the front bumper, side mirrors and leading edge of the trunk lid looked EXACTLY like the Benz. Eventually, I bought a DA, pads and tried all combinations of polish and compound trying to remove these scratches. Nothing worked. The scratch reflections come from the scratches reaching down through the clear coat to the metallic base coat, the metallic making the scratches look particularly bright. If you want to remove THOSE flaws, you're going to have to compound the clear coat off!

All you can do is cover it up with polish, sealant and wax.

For me, I found 3M Imperial Glaze worked best to cover it up.
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Thanks for sharing your expeirence :spy:
 
I know it must seem like admitting defeat, but a true professional knows the boundaries within which he can work. You definitely made the right call there.
 
gmblack3 said:
Well David, I guess I jumped the gun then.

Working on the trunk, I started with surbuf m105. The deeper stuff was laughing at me.

I then went to 3k trizact and the laughing was louder.

1500 trizact, guess what? No effect on the deep stuff. :cursing:

I called the owner and informed him that the paint is not fixable via me. I would recommend a repaint. I will still do the interior and put a coat of BFWD on for him.

This is the first time that I told a client I could not fix the paint on a car. I guess it was going to happen sooner or later. ^#(^ :smile:
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This might be the most professional post I've ever read on any detailing forum. You are a credit to the business!
 
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