I read the ONR Thread - I still have questions...

Hey guys,



I gave ONR a try and I found the results to be outstanding. I was so please with it, I did a write up of it on Corvette-Guru.com another site I frequent as often as this one. I used a grout sponge anyway, even though I had said I would try the mitt. (even though most people advised against the grout sponge). I also put about a quart of ONR mixed with water into a spray bottle, and sprayed down the car BEFORE wiping it down with ONR to ensure no marring. It worked like a charm, and left the finish glossy and clean. The only thing I would like to note, is that you will need to buy MANY grout sponges if you intend on using them to clean the car with ONR. The dirt just gets into the pores really bad, and they are garbage by the time your done washing the vehicle. From new to junk in 1 wash.



DG
 
Danspeed1 said:
Hey guys,



I gave ONR a try and I found the results to be outstanding. I was so please with it, I did a write up of it on Corvette-Guru.com another site I frequent as often as this one. I used a grout sponge anyway, even though I had said I would try the mitt. (even though most people advised against the grout sponge). I also put about a quart of ONR mixed with water into a spray bottle, and sprayed down the car BEFORE wiping it down with ONR to ensure no marring. It worked like a charm, and left the finish glossy and clean. The only thing I would like to note, is that you will need to buy MANY grout sponges if you intend on using them to clean the car with ONR. The dirt just gets into the pores really bad, and they are garbage by the time your done washing the vehicle. From new to junk in 1 wash.



DG
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Wow, please send me your old grout sponges if you only get one use out of them. Mine may be somewhat stained if any, but I've got a ton of washes on them and no where near bad.
 
I found this poking around the Optimum forums. The good doctor explains how ONR works in his own words.



The polymers in No Rinse have reactive groups that bond and trap dirt particles making the dirt particles virtually non-abrasive. They also bond to oily particles and emulsify them into water. The latter is equivalent to the cleaning action from soaps which also work by emulsifying oil particles into water. However, with soap there is no interaction with dirt. This is why adding No Rinse to a regular wash also helps protect the paint from dirt particles.



The No Rinse polymers also bond to all automotive surfaces and create a slick surface and act as a barrier to protect paint from marring. That is something that soap will not provide since surfactants in soaps have no affinity for painted or other automotive surfaces.



When you use 1 oz. of No Rinse in 1 or 2 gallons of water for your wash at the molecular level this provides hundreds of billions of polymer molecules to do what was said above. Additional product will not be necessary except if you are using tap water that contains high levels of minerals such as calcium hydroxide or silicates. In these cases some of the polymers will bond to these minerals and take them out of solution therefore more product might be necessary to compensate for this effect. This is another reason why adding No Rinse to a regular car wash soap improves the results when using tap water.
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A couple of days ago before the "big chill" (its 1*f out there right now) it was 40*f. I washed a 07 Charger by traditional methods BUT I included not only Megs Soap but also the normal mix of ONR to water. This product just made it to the top of my list. I will get at least a gallon of it, to use during the summer with my regular traditional washes.

DG
 
Scottwax said:
Exactly. Go over the section as many times using light pressure until it looks clean. Then you begin the drying process.



We had ice here about a week ago and they sanded the bridges and overpasses. This is what I've been dealing with since....



Single bucket method, changed the solution out about halfway through.



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I used the same method last night on my Silver Xterra. It was so grimy from salt dust that I couldn't even see the gigantic xterra decal on the lower door panels. Came clean and no marring at all. I also presoaked each panel with a detailers pump spray bottle first that had a less diluted mixture (compared to my bucket) of ONR in it.
 
did the dirtiest wash yet on my own car and need to do my wife's salt crusted Audi tomorrow - way beyond what I have dome with ONR so far, and it will really try my belief in it :nervous2:



will do the sprayer method as that works well for me, along with the 2BM... wish me luck :lol:
 
How do you ONR users flush dirt out from inaccessible areas?



Especially in winter, I get a *lot* of gritty dirt back in places I can't reach; I have to blast it out with the foamgun, hose, and compressed air.
 
Scottwax said:
You can use a pesticide sprayer.
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Eh..not nearly the pressure I'm needing :think: I use one of those when I ONR and while it's very helpful it's not gonna do what I'm thinking of here. Might work OK behind license plates that have a good gap under them though.



NSXTASY said:
A hot pre-rinse and compressed air Then QEW/ONR.
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Ah, that sounds more like what I was thinking necessary, but I didn't know if you ONR/QEW users were using hot water prerinses/etc. or not. I dunno...the hot water alone doesn't seem like it'd loosen the [stuff] all that well on its own compared to moderat/high-pressure flooding with shampoo mix (which could then dwell for a while), but I'm sure it'd help a lot.



Thanks for the responses, please don't take my thoughts on them as :argue I'm still not gonna be ONR/QEWing very much, but I was genuinely curious how you deal with stuff like that. I must spend at least 15 minutes per wash just dealing with this specific issue (and then there are all the other areas I have to flood, flood, flood to clean out) and I find it a real PIA so I was wondering how people were getting that stuff cleaned out with the ONR/QEW-centric wash methods.
 
Accumulator, I thought you didn't use ONR/QEW at all, only your, by now, famous 2-3h wash method :-) ?

I don't use ONR much either, but for very light dirt and sometimes on the company van, after a good rinse with a hose..
 
Mark77 said:
Accumulator, I thought you didn't use ONR/QEW at all, only your, by now, famous 2-3h wash method :-) ?
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I don't use it in the context of regular washes, but I do sometimes use it for:



-The wheels/tires of the dog-haulers



-Cleanups of work-in-process projects that've gathered a little garage dust



In other words, I'll sometimes use it in situations where others would just QD or use a CCD. Generally though, yeah, I stick with what works for me and my interest in ONR/QEW washes is primarily just intellectual curiosity.
 
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