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dubbkidd

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i have a black 06 vw gti and im looking to get it ready for an upcomming vw/audi show at englishtown......my car has many scratches now considering it is about a year old.... i just recently bought a makita rotary buffer (9227c) with a 7inch pad....i was wondering what would be the best pad to use with it and what kind of polish i should use to get out both swirls and many of the hair line scratches that have developed over time..



i have been using mothers stage one polish but i havent seen much of a difference in swirls.....althought i am not sure if u need to use both stg 1 and 2 to completely remove swirls...



also i was wondering what clay i could use when i plan on detailing my car...i was considering mothers...however i am not sure if this would be the best choice...considering it is a new car....
 
If you plan on starting with a rotary, please do yourself a favor and go to a junkyard or body shop and get an old body panel to practice on. Also, see if you can find someone to show you the basics of how to use one properly without damaging your car.



Rotaries are not exactly meant for beginners and you're much better off, and safer, starting out with a Porter Cable 7424 or 7336 orbital buffer. Rotaries are much more aggressive and if you aren't careful you can burn through the paint or leave rotary holograms all over the paint.
 
velobard said:
If you plan on starting with a rotary, please do yourself a favor and go to a junkyard or body shop and get an old body panel to practice on. Also, see if you can find someone to show you the basics of how to use one properly without damaging your car.



Rotaries are not exactly meant for beginners and you're much better off, and safer, starting out with a Porter Cable 7424 or 7336 orbital buffer. Rotaries are much more aggressive and if you aren't careful you can burn through the paint or leave rotary holograms all over the paint.
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Also to see of your paint needs clayed, do the plastic sandwich baggie test. Place your fingers inside the bag and rub it on your clean paint. If you can feel small bumps, then its time to clay.
 
gmblack3a said:
Also to see of your paint needs clayed, do the plastic sandwich baggie test. Place your fingers inside the bag and rub it on your clean paint. If you can feel small bumps, then its time to clay.
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If you've never clayed, then go ahead and do it anyway. Feel the difference before and after. Every time I show someone who's never tried clay what paint feels like before and after is amazed at the difference.
 
i was also wondering where i can find different bonnets that i can use to get the best finish with and where to find them
 
dubbkidd said:
i was also wondering where i can find different bonnets that i can use to get the best finish with and where to find them
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The only use I'd ever recommend for bonnets is LSP removal. Buffing LSPs off with a MF bonnet can work great, but I'm referring to using a PC/Cyclo, not a rotary. I wouldn't use *any* bonnet on a rotary like the 9227.



And I'll echo the concerns of the other respondants- I wouldn't expect to get a flawless finish, let alone on black, with a rotary without a *lot* of experience. I'm not bad with one but I still do my final polishing with the PC/Cyclo.



Sorry, but I'm not familiar with the Mother's line of polishes. Most VW clear is pretty hard, so any significant marring will probably take something with a fair amount of cut, used with a mild cutting pad (often orange in color). Then, once the scratches/etc. are replaced by micromarring from the polishing operation, you'd use a milder product/pad combo to achieve the final finish. Heh heh, the concept is pretty simple but actually doing it can be a challenge.
 
First time? with a rotary? on a black car? with hard clear? Eeks, hate to be a downer but I hope you know what you're doing. That is one VERY difficult car to get swirl free. You might pay someone to do it for you, you know a pro. Especially if you are planning on getting it carshow ready.
 
For a single car show, especially while you're just learning to machine polish, I'd personally recommend just slapping a nice layer of glaze with plenty of fillers on it when you get there. For a show there's no need to even wax over the glaze. Glaze can hide a multitude of sins....why do you think body shops are so fond of it? :grinno:
 
It depends on what backing plate you have. Does it have velcro? What size is it? Hopefully it is flexible as well.
 
velobard said:
It depends on what backing plate you have. Does it have velcro? What size is it? Hopefully it is flexible as well.
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im not sure of the size however it does have velcro and it is not flexible....
 
i was considering gettting a new backing plate....but im not sure what size would be the most convenient...



i was also wonder if i should use a fine clay or a medium abrassive clay...
 
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