I need a new wax

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imported_bckpack

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I've been lurking around off and on for about a year now and picked up a lot of good info. Now, I've got a question. Here's some background...



I have a black 2004 Toyota Tacoma. I wax it (along with a wash, clay and polish) about every three months. Sometimes it doesn't even get washed between wax jobs. It's usually not worth it to me to wash it often as it goes off road often, as in every other week. I will sometime rinse off heavy dirt but that's usually it.



I'm currently using Griots products. I'm not really a fan of theirs in general but I'm pretty happy with their machine polish and I especially like their pads. The one thing that I don't like is their liquid BOS wax. I can't get it to work for me. I'm using the Porter Cable dual action polisher to apply it. No matter how long I leave the wax sitting, it smears when I try to remove it. I've varied the quanity I apply also. I've even used a terrycloth bonnet over a pad to remove the bulk of the wax but it still smears when I try to give it a final buff by hand using a cotton or microfiber cloth. It takes a whole lot of effort to remove all of the product. It looks great once I do but it isn't worth the effort. Is this just a characteristic of BOS?



So, I'd like to try a new wax. I don't want to totally switch my whole system since nothing else gives me problems. Any recommendations? It seems that people are pretty pleased with P21S. I'm assuming since it is a paste it is applied by hand? Are there any other recommendations? Eventually I'd like to try some synthetic products but I'd like to get my money out of the products I have now first.



Thanks in advance for everyone's help.
 
As I recall the black Tacomas do NOT have a clearcoat...correct? Either way, your are probably better off with a good prep and one of the polymers, Zaino, Wolfgang, AIO or NXT.
 
Richie Griot needs to have that product re-formulated :down



backpack, describe the climate where you live/drive.
 
I'm a non-clearcoated black also. If you haven't gone to the Harley dealer and picked up some S100, you definately need to do that. I've not tried AIO, but it's on my very short list of cleaner waxes to try. Recently, I've discovered that Meg's ColorX is a pretty good cleaner wax, but it's so solventy, I'm worried it will dull a finish over the long term like, say, NuFinish does.



Also, recently read about the Hi-Temp line here. Went to Top of the Line and they seem to really respect the brand. I was thinking about trying one of those.



I'm also planning on getting, I think it's #7, the Meg's glaze. There was a fellow who posted recently who was getting great results with it, but it faded off in three months. Hey, that sounds great to me, as I feel stupid this time of year redoing my car over and over just to spend time with it.



Edited to add:

Oh, and NXT and Poorboys. I have to get some of those too. And 1z Glanz. And #16 when my S100 runs out. :D
 
I'm in Georgia.

Like I say, the truck usually has a thick coat of mud applied within a few weeks of a wax job. I'm totally obsessive about how my truck looks...when I take the time to detail it. The interior is vacuumed/detailed every two weeks at the latest but I dont have the time to wash the exterior often. I'm basically just disappointed with the BOS wax.
 
I'm a big-time Zaino fan and these is a Zaino polish for non-clearcoated and clearcoated.



A friend of mine uses the Griot's machine polishes with good results. but he too did not like the BOS wax. Besides the aggravation of putting it on. Once on, it also had a very short life...I re-named it "day of show wax".
 
have you considered products like Klasse or Collinite's Insulator Wax? They will offer superior protection under harsh conditions.



Menzerna's new FMJ product may also be of interest.
 
I think tomstin is on the right track suggesting one of the big polymers. I think one of them might be more durable than S100/P21S with the abuse that you'll put it through. You could probably run down to your local auto store, walmart, target, etc... and pick up a bottle of Meg's NXT.
 
Can these polymer protectants be applied over a "standard" polish? Can I still use my Griot's polish and then apply a non carnuba based protectant?



Also, what's this about Tacoma black being non-clearcoat? That's the first I've heard of this. Thanks.
 
Maybe it's clearcoated, I'm just listening to Tomstin up there. When you polish, do you get black off?



NTX will strip off a little glazeyness left by a polish, but otherwise bond fine. Zaino, I've actually never heard anyone say it didn't bond well, but we're all paranoid that it wont.



But you dont' want to go Zaino...you'll be like those Corvette people. :D Bad enough you're a Griots person. ;)



Oh, and I searched for that Insulator Wax. Sounds like good stuff. I drive by some hellishly bad construction crap right now, and I could really use some good protection.
 
No paint comes of when polishing. I wouldn't think that black Toyota Tacoma's are one of the last cars on the planet without a clearcoat. I was just a little confused.



I've been hearing about Zaino for a few years now. I've never seen the results in person but what I have seen in pictures is pretty impressive. Really, I'm only hesitant to use it because I like the whole Zen thing that comes with using the random orbital. I'll give it a shot one of these days though. I'd just hate to order some and have no use for my "old" collection of detailing supplies.
 
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