I got my bottle of Werkstatt, aka Jeff's Acrylic Jett

Hey Scott,

Does this apply and remove very easily, compared to something like UPP? I know you said it is very thin like SG or Glanz, but I'm hoping it comes off easier than SG!



Also, is protection expected to last as long as Zaino or SG?



I'm thinking to try this and top with FMJ.



- J
 
Bill D said:
I'm curious what is meant by this term "nano". I've seen it used before to describe ceramic particle paints and we've seen it before in a product name from Eagle One but what is actually meant by it here?
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Nanotechnology is the creation and use of materials, devices and systems that are formed through the control of matter at the nanometer-length level. A nanometer is 75,000 times smaller than the width of a human hair.



I cut and pasted from the following article I found via Google:

http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2002/12/02/story6.html



Chris
 
Is there any indication of the durability of this stuff either from past shokar users or manufacturer claims?
 
Terran said:
Is there any indication of the durability of this stuff either from past shokar users or manufacturer claims?
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Pretty durable so far. A few of the vehicles I used Shokar on I either haven't seen or are no longer owned by person I detailed it for. I have a few customers who absolutely love it. One in particular runs his MDX through the gas station car wash 3-6 times a week depending on the weather. After 2 1/2 months, when I reapplied Shokar, it was still beading like crazy, looked terrific and had decent slickness.



It is time for me to rewax my brother's Odyssey and I might put Z2 Pro on one side and Acrylic Jett on the other side. I know that Z2 Pro will hold up well already on the Odyssey, it will be interesting to see how the two compare. The look is pretty similar so his van shouldn't look weird or anything.
 
I received an answer from Jeff as to the 30 minute setup time that is recommended for Prime.



The 30 minute hazing time for Prime is based on data that CarLack gathered

during development concerning the physical and chemical hardening process

that the acrylic-based polymers undergo. This was the break down:

20% cured within 1 minute of application

35% within 10 minutes

80% within 30 minutes

90% within one hour

and the final 10% within 48 hours



That was the basis for the recommendation on the bottle. However, as you

say, if the protective abilities of the product are not paramount, it may be

removed sooner.
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Therefore, if you want to use Prime as a stand alone product and require protection, follow the recommendations on the bottle. If you are using the Acrylic Jett afterwards, it's up to you.



I'm guessing Klasse AIO/SG have similar characteristics.



- J
 
Justin, thanks for the information on the curing process of the Prime but does anybody know whether AJ has the same curing process as the Prime, ie within 1 hour the curing is 90% done ?
 
Tested the AJ using spray and wipe method as listed on the bottle and I was amazed by the instant slickness and gloss it provided



I'll try wipe on, leave for 1 hour at least and see how that goes

Great on glass
 
I think I did not make myself clear in my question :P. What I meant is if we use the spray on wipe off method, after wiping off does AJ cured 90% within 1 hour ? If that's the case than I rather do the 2nd layer 1 hour later after applying the first layer in order to get the maximum benefit out of it :).
 
gmblack3a said:
If I remember right Scottwax does not recommend leaving AJ on for that long. I think he does one panel at a time.
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I think what they are referring to is adding a second layer on top of the first.



I do let Prime set up for 30 minutes before removing to make sure I get the best durability in the most reasonable amount of time.
 
Scott,



Do you find the AJ products to perform similar to the old or new AIO formulas? Did Jeff tweak the formula a bit for his line?



I remain quite fond of AIO so I may give this line a spin.
 
SilverLexus said:
Scott,



Do you find the AJ products to perform similar to the old or new AIO formulas? Did Jeff tweak the formula a bit for his line?



I remain quite fond of AIO so I may give this line a spin.
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Werkstatt products are Carlack, not Klasse. Despite whatever rumors are flying around, until I see real proof they are the same product, I'm not believing it.



Carlack/Werkstatt is a nano-acrylic product. It is new acrylic technology. Prime seems to have similar cleaning power to AIO but has a wetter look. AJ is definitely deeper and wetter looking than SG, plus no silvery sheen on black paint when viewed at an angle.
 
They may not be the same product, but they seem to be similar, and are almost certainly from the same parent comany. So let us agree that there is no proof AIO and Prime are the same unless someone does chemical testing. :) That being said, the old AIO and Prime definitely don't behave the same way. For instance, Prime's slickness does not come out right away.



Acrylic Jett is very slick when using the spray method. You might waste a bit more product depending on your method, but it's great for cars that I'm lazy to wax.



Presumably, the Acrylic Gloss QD has some emulsifiers or even alcohol, so I'm not sure how soon you can use it after AJ. Will have to do some testing to see if a freshly applied layer of AJ is affected by it.



- Justin
 
Werkstatt products are Carlack, not Klasse.
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I think Carlack makes AIO as parent company perhaps, no?



It really doesn't matter if they are different products though which is why I was wondering if Jeff tweaked the formula. If it has nano-tech then maybe that's a difference.



Another issue for me is long-term performance...AIO seems to have lost some performance since the VOC compliance.
 
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