How Was Your Zaino Experience?

How Was Your Zaino Experience?

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hey dude, why don't you read my entire post before spewing out of your mouth. My post said the product worked great, but I had a lousy customer service experience. Is this possible?- YES. If I had complained about another product on this forum besides zaino would you have said something to me and called me a liar- NO I dont think so. You have no right to say I made 4 attacks on zaino- period. The thread is entitled (ONCE AGAIN) "how was your zaino experience". I answered the thread truthfully- good or bad- and I did NOT attack zaino. For me to have attacked zaino I would have had to start the thread myself and immediately begin with smartass comments about the company (much like the comments you made about me).



Learn how to read entire posts before commenting and attacking other members.
 
ive talked to sal a while back maybe sometime in 99 or so and the 1st time i talked to him he was ok, never rude but kinda pushin it. You know sometimes you have those people that own the companies like dennis deurr and hes not intentionally a **** but hes like "well whydo you want an extractor like that when mines better". Well sal had that same tone and response to ?'s i had regarding using the Dawn and topping it w/ carnuba. He said "why do you want to top it for if it looks good as it is cause its 99% optically clear" and yada yadayda. thats what i didnt like about him. then again it was a long time ago so forgive and forget.
 
Originally posted by Burlyq

What if it was someone making these statements about Autopiacarcare, Autogeek, or other vendors we all like and use regularly.
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Do a search, it has happened with several vendors here and Meguiars customer service can be hit and miss, depending on who you talk to. The point is, all customer service people have bad days, the only problem is if they have a lot of them.
 
I don't doubt you Scott and I don't doubt that some folks have had problems with every vendor out there. I doubt the multiplicity of the complaint and that's all. And if anyone would have said what GTO said about any vendor than I would have questioned it, and BTW that is my right, not an attack. It had nothing to do with Zaino.
 
No, you told him that you didn't believe him, which is the same as accusing him of not telling the truth. In other words, rather than add to the positive energy on the Z side, like those who all said that they had good experiences, YOU added to the negative energy, by attacking another Autopian's credibility.



Since I'm adding to the negative energy as well, by writing this to you, I shall now exit this thread. I thought it was important to point that out, though.





Tom
 
Burlyq said:
To suggest first the product was bad, then the service center didn't reply to your many email complaints, you left multiple unreturned phone messages, and then also the owner was a bad guy and mean to you is just NOT believable. While your at it you might want to blame him for running over your neighbors dog.
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After you get enough posts and enough time passes, you can change that little title under your name. You might consider changing yours from "Obsessed Detailer" to "Thread Ender" :xyxthumbs
 
Aurora40 said:
After you get enough posts and enough time passes, you can change that little title under your name. You might consider changing yours from "Obsessed Detailer" to "Thread Ender" :xyxthumbs
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It's true people who drive old people cars can have a sense of humor, lol.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
Definitely Steve and I understand your irritation. It bothers me also as a Zaino user.
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I have to totally agree with blkZ28Conv on this one. As a Zainophile, I even get embarasses at some of the utter obsurd comments made by other Zaino Users.



To my fellow Zainophiles:



Please, please, please remember... sometimes you need to just walk away.



There is a particular Zainophile, I don't want to name names, that seems to have a problem walking away from any statement made regarding Zaino. This member has been the result of more threads being locked in the last few months of his membership than has been locked since I became a member in December of 2003.



I visit this site multiple times a day and read 75% of the post but there's a reason why I've been a member since 12/2003 and only have 358 posts: I've learned, believe me, I've learned that opinions are just that, opinions. I use to fight the "good" fight (just ask Aurora40, blkZ28Conv, ZaneO, and even Mike Philips), but decided it just wasn't worth it. You have no more of a chance changing someone elses mind regarding Zaino than they will changing your mind about another product.



To this member,



Please take my advise and learn to pick your fights. You have no more of a chance changing someone elses mind regarding Zaino than they will changing your mind about a product you dislike.



I'm sure I'm not the only Zainophile that feels this way. You're giving us all a bad name.
 
I agree with dternest. This thread should have stayed positive, maybe someone could have helped gto with his Zaino experience.



This thread could have helped dispel some of the myths, like the the *required* Dawn wash, convoluted application techniques some people say you need to follow, etc. In reality, based on my actual use, Zaino is pretty easy to use, seems (at least so far with my personal experience) durable and holds its look, and the appearance of Z2 exceded what I was expecting. Much wetter looking than I thought it would be.



Does that mean I will be a regular user? Maybe, but I like so many products I find it hard to stick with only one. ;)
 
Scottwax said:
I agree with dternest. This thread should have stayed positive, maybe someone could have helped gto with his Zaino experience.



This thread could have helped dispel some of the myths, like the the *required* Dawn wash, convoluted application techniques some people say you need to follow, etc. In reality, based on my actual use, Zaino is pretty easy to use, seems (at least so far with my personal experience) durable and holds its look, and the appearance of Z2 exceded what I was expecting. Much wetter looking than I thought it would be.



Does that mean I will be a regular user? Maybe, but I like so many products I find it hard to stick with only one. ;)
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Okay, on the usage side of my zaino experience, it was like this: I washed the car with dawn, sprayed it with the Z spray they sold me, then mixed the zfx with z-5 and applied a coat, waited 1/2 hour and wiped off. Then did it again, waited 1/2 hour and started applying two more coats of Z-2 for the gloss. of course i also sprayed the z-1 spray in between all the coats. It was a busy day but i managed to complete the car on a saturday. Now I should have let it sit overnight and applied more coats on sunday but i had plans on sunday, and work the rest of the week. The car looked great, i got compliments from lots of people. It worked as advertised. It just was a pain in the arse to deal with zfx (until it ran out the first day).



how is that for a "zaino experience", it is about as neutral as I can get without accidentally giving any of my opinion. Sounds more like a boring courtroom deposition but hey, thats what i did when I used the stuff.
 
I'm intrigued by Zaino, and I would like to try it. However, I'm not certain it is worth all the steps. My question is, with the new Z2 pro can you use just the Z2 without ZFX etc?
 
gto78 said:
Okay, on the usage side of my zaino experience, it was like this: I washed the car with dawn, sprayed it with the Z spray they sold me, then mixed the zfx with z-5 and applied a coat, waited 1/2 hour and wiped off. Then did it again, waited 1/2 hour and started applying two more coats of Z-2 for the gloss. of course i also sprayed the z-1 spray in between all the coats. It was a busy day but i managed to complete the car on a saturday. Now I should have let it sit overnight and applied more coats on sunday but i had plans on sunday, and work the rest of the week. The car looked great, i got compliments from lots of people. It worked as advertised. It just was a pain in the arse to deal with zfx (until it ran out the first day).



how is that for a "zaino experience", it is about as neutral as I can get without accidentally giving any of my opinion. Sounds more like a boring courtroom deposition but hey, thats what i did when I used the stuff.
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You used Z1 and ZFX? You should use one or the other but not both. Unless you used it because you ran out of ZFX? You actually made more work for yourself, unless this was the case. ZFX and Z1 are interchangable.



I find it easier to use the ZFX. A few drops in 1-1.5 oz of Z2 or Z5, shake it up, and apply.



I hope this helps.
 
zevo said:
I'm intrigued by Zaino, and I would like to try it. However, I'm not certain it is worth all the steps. My question is, with the new Z2 pro can you use just the Z2 without ZFX etc?
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The first time you apply and Zaino Product (Z2, Z3, or Z5) it is recommened that you use ZFX.



Using ZFX is not as difficult to use as you may think. As I said in my previous post: 4 drops of ZFX in 1-1.5 oz of product, and apply. Using Z1 is another story, applying Z1 is similar to applying anyother product. Wipe it on, wipe it off, and then apply product.
 
I simply did AIO, Z2 pro with ZFX and layed down 3 layers, using Z6 in between layer 1 and 2. Didn't bother on the 3rd layer, it was getting late. Piece of cake.
 
I once new a guy that was always giving advice, we all called him papa. Can I call you papa dternst? I had one thread closed of which I appoligized. One. I challenge you to find two papa. Since then I've been getting better, but I also call it like I see it. Since you sound concerned I will email this thread to Sal Zaino and see if he objects to my statements. I don't know the guy, I do know that when I've emailed him he emailed me back with an answer. I don't know if he'll bother with this but I will email him anyhow. If he says GTO was right I will appoligize to GTO and post the email.

I use many sealants and waxes. Since you read 75% of every post you should know this. My only posted reviews with pics were of tropicare, wolfgang, glare, klasse, the only Zaino was Z5 w/o ZFX, just messing around. I also haven't even tried the new Z2. The only product I use religiously is menzerna for polishing. To be correct if you want to call me a "phile," call me a menzerna phile. Many people will call anyone that defends anything Zaino a zealot, but anyone who hates on Zaino is some how tolerated. Again, I will email this to Zaino and ask for his opinion. If he says he'd prefer me not to make this type of statement, I will never make any argument to any Zaino hater. I don't owe him anything, but I wouldn't prefer to hurt his product. Thanks Papa talk at you later.
 
Burly,

No one objects to you, me, dternst, gto, ScottWax, Aurora4.0 or anyone voicing their opinion about an opinion or experience. But there is a line that MUST not be crossed. One of them is personal attacks. Calling someone or even implying that a poster is a liar is one of these lines that most not be violated.

Very simple.



In this thread all that was needed was to state your positive experiences and as a Zaino lover express your apology for the bad experience that gto had with Zaino. Since Sal does not post and we can't get both sides of the story, further discussion of gto's experience is pointless and we should accept it with that same value that all the positive experiences have been accepted.

No person. product or customer service is perfect and you, me and everyone else must accept that fact and move on.



Burly you have really done an excellent job with PC since you were called out when you first arrived. Keep it up because every member has many positive things to offer on detailing and I believe most enjoy your posts. Just be careful on how you react when something stimulates that Zaino nerve. :D



Gto's reaction to his experience is perfectly normal would be the same if a vendor treated me in the same described manner.



You really do not need Sal to instruct you about apologying to gto.

You know what is the "right thing" to do. :wavey
 
Back to the topic:



I only have limited playtime experience with Zaino, specifically Z2/ZFX. But all I can say is that, it's above average, it's great, it's cool, it shines above the rest, it holds on to the surface very well for a minimum of 4 mos (here in the Philippines, we have harsh environment, especially salt and acid rain -especially when leaving in the coastal areas). That was last year. I strip it to put back my regular wax. I save the bottle of Z2/ZFX for some show cars or automotive-related gatherings.



That's all. Furthermore, let me say that I'm a megs user. My goto polish is #80 and it's the only product of megs that I've stocked up 3 gallons on my arsenal. Can be used by hand or rotary. By hand to achieve the looks, and by rotary to cut.



At any rate, though I consider myself from the megs religion, I don't argue against Zaino. I must admit, I will not use Zaino for referral customers or even relatives, but only on my "OWN car. I took pride in using it. I'm both Zaino and megs believer!!!



Does that make sense? I hope so...have nothing against anyone...
 
I've been using Zaino since 01',I messed around with some different products and combo's but I found myself going back to Z in the end.One thing I've learned is too many are getting bent about all that's required to use Zaino.I've used AIO under it and now ColorX under it since Sep. and it's holding up great here in the NorthEast winter.People here get way to dramatic as to what you have to do and use with Zaino.Yes the car has to be defect free but what you use prior to Zaino such as the Dawn wash crap and what not is way over stated and adds to the myth and in my opinion adds to the bashing of the product.I can't wait till spring to try the Pro version to see if it really is any different.
 
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