How to get paint speckles off

Jngrbrdman

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Ok, so I have an interesting problem. I have a client who brought me their 2009 M3 convertible a month or so ago. He had left it outside in his driveway and I guess the neighbors did some painting, because in the morning it had paint speckles all over it. Instead of dealing with the neighbor, he decided to just go get it taken care of. The BMW dealership said they could get them off for $130, but I couldn't send him to the stealership to have his paint ruined. When it didn't come off with a simple wash I am sure they would just bust out the rotary with wool pad and try to burn them off. So I told him that I had two hours I could spend on it for $130 and I would get them off as best as I could. Well, I guess his anal retentive dad has a pretty good eye for detail because he found some that I missed. To my credit, this is a jet black car and it is like polishing on a mirror. It is next to impossible to tell the difference between white paint speckles and dust from the polish. Also, there are some rock chips on the hood that look exactly like the paint speckles, so most of the freakout was over things that I can't remove anyway.

So he brought it back over so I could tackle the spots I missed. I was thinking I must have done a really bad job and left spots all over the place, but it was actually really hard to find any. I seriously must have gotten 99% of them out and this guy was still seeing that 1%. This 1% survived being clayed and polished multiple times, so they are pretty sticky little buggers.

So he wants me to give it one last shot to see if I can get the last remaining speckles off. I really thought I did that the first time and definitely thought I did it the second time, so I'm starting to doubt if I can even do it. What would you guys try next? I tried mineral spirits and it caused more damage than what it solved, so I'm not really feeling like doing that. I've tried clay, XMT360 (thought maybe just a good paint cleaner would work), Klasse AIO, Pinnacle paint cleansing lotion, 4* Light Cut Compound, Poorboys SSRII, and Black Hole. I knew Black Hole wouldn't do much, but just so you know, it doesn't do anything. ;) Any other suggestions or techniques?

Oh, here is the car in question. I posted these awhile ago because I was so surprised with the paint quality. I'm wondering if these paint specs are hiding in the dimples of the paint and that is what makes it hard to get. Do you think? This is textured enough paint that I guess it is possible.

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You can kind of see the speckles in this picture. They are just so tiny they are really really tough to nail down.

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I still feel good that he didn't waste $130 at the dealership and then get burned paint that had to be repaired, but I'm really starting to doubt my own abilities at this point. I've already spent four hours on this car and apparently I'm still not getting all the spots off. I've tried to tell him to take it to another shop so they can get perhaps better results, but they are fine letting me keep taking a whack at it and are even willing to pay me to sit down with it all day and just get the job done. Before I take a job like that, I'd like some opinions on whether or not I'm missing something that will work better.
 
Ron had a similar problem a while back and was freakin out :wow:
I approached it with clay and used APC full strength as the lube... they popped right off ;) Good luck
 
I haven't tried that yet... I think I have some APC in that big kit of yours, don't I? I'll have to give that a shot. Thanks for the suggestion!
 
I haven't tried that yet... I think I have some APC in that big kit of yours, don't I? I'll have to give that a shot. Thanks for the suggestion!

the kit may have a diluted version, but it may still work :hmmm: I'm sure you have a couple other APC's at your disposal too ;)
 
Ron had a similar problem a while back and was freakin out :wow:
I approached it with clay and used APC full strength as the lube... they popped right off ;) Good luck

Deja vu

Good luck

Freaking out is an understatement.......

Somewhere the thread has to be around here
 
Goof Off is my go-to for removing paint from almost anything, although I've never tried it on a clear coat. So test it first and proceed carefully.

You might get away with a quick wipe with Goof Off to soften the paint, then a QD or wash to remove paint and any remaining goof off.
 
Holy crap what an ordeal... I tried everything. Bug Squash, Tarminator, APC clay lube, every level of polish and pad I could think of. My hands are pretty much toast from the APC and will peel for a couple days. I couldn't get the clay to stick to my fingers with gloves on, so I did it without knowing that it would do a number on my skin. I worked in 12" square areas with two 500watt halogens and my little dual LED spotlight that I bought from Autogeek after seeing Mike Phillips use his as SEMA. After six hours on this tiny little car I finally think I got most of them out. What is left is an absolute mystery what to use to resolve. Personally I think they are little burns in the paint at pinhole size that are creating an optical illusion of a spec that can never be removed sort of wetsanding.

I asked him again what kind of paint it was and he changed his story and said he didn't know. It wasn't there when he went to California and when he came back his dad was the one who brought it up. So it could have been concrete sealant or road paint for all I know.

All I can say is that I'm glad I charged him by the hour on this one. I told him I'd cap the bill at $300 which was good for him since it took me a little longer than $300 would cover at my hourly rate. I know better than to assume that someone coming to me with paint speckles will be an easy job now though. I've done rattle can overspray in the past without a problem, but this was an entirely different beast.
 
wet sand those spots and hit them with your rotary ..piece of cake ..cmon man you are a world famous detailer and a long time member of dc
 
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