how many years do you keep a car?

Accumulator, I guess so :nixweiss I would rate it as one of my favorite vehicles. From the quality of the paint, to the complete fit and finish and quality of materials internal and external. The handling and ride at highway speeds to the in-town manuevering are first rate. I can easily see watching 200k roll over on this one.



I will say one problem we had was the air conditioner system. A/Cs in Texas do get tested.



Just curious...what were some of your issues and when (yr/mileage) did they present?
 
I'm on my third year with my 02' TL-S. Planning on going at least ten years with it. Had a 92' Prelude Si for ten years before I got the TL-S. Then I started missing it, so I just recently picked up a 96' Prelude VTEC. That's going to be my project car. Now all I have to do is learn how to drive stick!! :p
 
My first car i had for about a year or so..Then i got a 240sx i owned for 2 years....i had my civic for about about 3 1/2 years and now i have my scion tc i had for 10 months now
 
ericsscion said:
My first car i had for about a year or so..Then i got a 240sx i owned for 2 years....i had my civic for about about 3 1/2 years and now i have my scion tc i had for 10 months now



i want to trade in my vic for a scion tc, but... i'm half way through paying for it (probably sell it as soon as it's paid off). hopefully, the tc will be around in 08! :laugh:



ps. was curious.... any regrets on purchasing the tc (likes/dislikes)?
 
imacarnut- i have no regrets on buying my tc...i love this car...i mean at first i missed my civic because i had wheels on it and a body kit and all that stuff but once i started driving my tc harder (after 1000 miles) i quickly forgot about the civic. I really dont have anything negative to say about the car.
 
I keep a vehicle an average of 7 to 8 years. My F-150 will be an exception, as my next vehicle will be a "toy". I am thinking of either a sports sedan or a 2005 Mustang ragtop. The truck is paid for, and I have had no other expenses other than maintenance, minor repairs other than the expendables ( brakes, battery, tires, ball joint replacements etc.) The truck will be the daily driver and winter vehicle, the toy will be garaged in the winter months.
 
I have a 1998 Ford Expedition with about 97,000 miles on the odometer. I picked it up used in mid 2001.

We also have a Toyota Corolla that we bought new in 1994 with 130,000 miles on it. At this point I cant afford to replace it due to the fact that I only have about $500 worth of extra repairs in it, maybe $600. As long as the cars are reliable we keep them.
 
Gonzo0903- So you're gonna keep the F150 indefinitely? That should work OK, I hear they last forever.



Mr. Clean said:
Just curious...what were some of your [Volvo 850] issues and when (yr/mileage) did they present?



IIRC it was a '91 wagon, not certain about the year; it was my father's and I only drove it when I had to. I can honestly say that I greatly preferred the driving characteristics of his wife's '84 Volvo 240 wagon. When they were both gone I sold the 950 ASAP and kept the 240!



Besides my usual issues with FWD cars (crappy steering feel, torque steer, heavy understeer) it had two issues that drove me nuts on the rare occasions I drove it. They didn't bother him so I didn't waste my breath/time very much. The more important was a problem with the brakes, which I first noticed when the car was several weeks old. I had to "pump them up" to have a firm pedal! Virtually no way to exaggerate the severity of this, there were times when I'd try to trigger the anti-lock at high speed on a wet road and I couldn't get sufficient brake force to do it! The stopping distances during a "hard stop" were just awful and I got in the habit of doing the "pumping" thing all the time. The first time I drove it I thoght "catastrophic failure" and took it straight to the dealer, who pronounced it "normal". I had a number of shops look at it and they either couldn't get it to act that way (huh? whenever *I* drove it....) or they said "that's how they are". I'd have them bleed the fluid, replace the fluid, check for leaks in the vacuum assist, you name it. Never did find the problem and my father didn't notice/acknowledge/car so I finally just :nixweiss



The second problem was merely irritating- whenever it was used in wet weather (heh heh, not a huge issue if in Texas I bet!) the interior would smell like onions! As in, *really* strong, embarrassingly bad. You'd worry about your clothes picking it up and people would smell it when you opened the doors. Just happened to be a smell I couldn't stand, I can imagine some people wouldn't mind. A car magazine had the exact same issue with a long-term 850 so I suspect something used in the interior construction for a limited part of the production run.



Reading the above, I suppose it sounds like I'm sorta harsh towards the 850, but having had wagons I really *loved* (VW Quantum Synchro, Audi S6, Buick Roadmaster) and ones I sorta liked (Subaru Outback and WRX and the 240, which I modified heavily), the 850 was probably my least favorite car ever, at least of the stuff in our family.



The build quality was OK other than the above, and it did have a nice paintjob. The charcoal colored plastic trim was something to keep polishes off of, though! The interior was OK but my wife and I didn't like the seats. But again, consider that we're used to a very different type of car.
 
I've adopted my parent's attitude: Keep them until the cost of repairs exceed or come close to the value of the vehicle.
 
Accumulator, your post is representative of what I have come to appreciate about you. You don't just generalize and paint with broad brush strokes, you get to the specifics (and the facts). Thank you :up I asked specifically to determine if there might be any "glitches or goblins" that I might yet encounter as she enters her "senior years"



The 850 series ran from '93-'97 a rather short model run for Volvo. Yours might have been a '94 since the first year only had a 4-door sedan in the lineup (IIRC).



Funny you should mention brake issues, yet stated your preference to the 240 (which BTW we love the body style and may one day own one of our own). It was the 240 models which I had read (and had been told by previous Volvo owners) which had notoriously poor brakes. The joke was that the poor brakes weren't an issue because you would never get a 240 going fast enough for it to be an issue :grinno: Acutally, the 4 wheel disc brake setup was supposed to be a strong suit for the 850 and other than the sticky (and plentiful) brake dust generated, the brakes on our '96 are more than adequate.



Your comment on the seats really shows a difference in opinion. Ours are the most comfortable seat that my Wife and I have ever set in. Our seats are firm and have both a seat length and back support design that fits us both just right, and there is a "significant" difference in physical size between the two of us. :nixweiss We have often joked that if we ever get rid of the car, we'll take the seats out and put them in the den. :D
 
ericsscion said:
imacarnut- i have no regrets on buying my tc...i love this car...i mean at first i missed my civic because i had wheels on it and a body kit and all that stuff but once i started driving my tc harder (after 1000 miles) i quickly forgot about the civic. I really dont have anything negative to say about the car.



hey ericsscion,

thanks for the reply! one thing i like about the tc is, it has clean body lines and seems to be a breeze to detail. for the price, it can't be beat and has more bang for the buck than alot of cars i've seen in it's class. you need to post a pic when done with a detail, please! :waxing: :chuckle:
 
Mr. Clean- Wow, I was *way* off on that 850's model year, huh?!? Heh heh, at least I remember that the 240 was an '84. When I first saw the 240 (father's second wife's car, never waxed since new, literally washed in winter by "rubbing it with snow") I thought "worst car *ever*", but after I fixed it up it was a great dog-hauler. Now it's giving wonderful service to somebody who really appreciates it (and als appreciates all the attention a spotless '84 Volvo wagon can generate- perfect car for her).



The four wheel discs on the 240 always worked great for me; I had considered upgrading them but decided against it. So easy to modulate that I never missed the ABS, even in icey winter conditions, even in panic-stops. It's lack of power (even after my modifications) actually worked well for the intended application; with the "enhanced" suspension/etc. ;) and the limited slip diff I had fitted, it was like a "great day at a driving school" every time I took it out in bad weather. Heh heh, nothing like messing with kids in much faster cars while driving a robin's-egg-blue 4 cylinder wagon- "gee, why can't I keep up with that thing?" ;)



The seats will always be a personal preference thing....funny about how you find the 850's back support, that was one of our gripes! FWIW, the most comfortable seats for both me and my wife were the sport seats in my Mallett 'vette. After many hours we both hopped out feeling refreshed. Sure didn't expect *that*!
 
Well, I'm just letting my 18 year-old Volvo 740Turbo go at the moment, I've driven it for just under 11 years now. It had over 195k miles (315k km) on it, and was running great but the turbo was starting to go on it.... Just bought a '94 Volvo850Turbo as a replacement. Love 'em or hate 'em, good ones will go on for ever. My loss, as I tend ot fall in love with my cars so that means I'll only own a few in my lifetime.... Any, I'll try to post some pics of the new girl once I've cleaned her up a bit....
 
Tenebris1 said:
Well, I'm just letting my 18 year-old Volvo 740Turbo go at the moment, I've driven it for just under 11 years now. ....



No way you could just keep the 740 and think on it for a while? If you saw my earlier posts on this thread you know I'm in the "hate 'em" camp on the 850 :o but *man* do I still miss the modded 240 wagon I gave away to my in-law. I'd hate for you to look back in a few years and wish you'd just mothballed the 740T for a while, especially after all that time and miles.



Good luck with the new one, I'll be watching for the pics.
 
norahcrv said:
I'm on my third Honda in over thirty years of daily driving.

1975 Civic - drove it for 10 years

1985 Civic Wagon - almost 21 years

2004 CR-V - only 1 year - SO FAR!



Sold the 1985 Civic Wagon last week after almost 22 years of happy ownership with original paint.

Now my son has a 2007 Honda FIT & I'm still loving my CR-V after 2+ years.

Car salesmen don't like me ;)
 
norahcrv said:
Sold the 1985 Civic Wagon last week after almost 22 years of happy ownership with original paint.



:wow: talk about getting your $$$$'s worth! :woot:



p.s. loyal to honda, eh? :chuckle:
 
My 2001 LSV8 has around 47k right now. I bought it in 2005 with 33k. I am guessing about 100k and I will trade it for a 2006 model LSV8. So far nothing has gone wrong with it. :)
 
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