How many applications per can or jar for the average wax?

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I bought the liquid a couple of years ago before I got turned on to blitz. I gave most of it away after using blitz. I reminded me a lot of No. 26 Meguiars liquid. I don't think it lasted very long. Nothing special. Certainly not worth the rather high price they charge for it ($32/16oz bottle)
 
I have not used wax since the 70's on my cars,so I am out of touch on this
subject. I was wondering how many cars you can do with a jar or tub
of the average wax?
 
Uh, thats like asking how many licks to get to the center of a tootsie pop :wizard:

I have on many occasions tried to count the numbr of cars I get pr. tin can of carnuba....I have failed at every occasion :(

I am sure you can get 25-30 applications pr. can though. The secret to getting the most out of a can is to apply as thin as possible.This also will help reduce streaking and breaking your back trying to remove(if your working by hand) :blacksmith:

Hope this helps :driving:
 
billd55 said:
I have not used wax since the 70's on my cars,so I am out of touch on this
subject. I was wondering how many cars you can do with a jar or tub
of the average wax?
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Out of curiosity Bill.....

You have stated in other threads that 'your sealant' looks as good as any carnauba wax out there, with the same gloss and shine, but now you are admitting that you haven't used a wax since the 1970's.

Some waxes have come a long ways, particularly waxes that now utilize the same type of synthetic ingredients as sealants (although sometimes used for different purposes).

It could be like comparing the older acrylic sealants of the past (from the 1970's and 1980's) to modern acrylic sealants, which have not only more eco friendly, but offer better depth of shine: Or comparing older acrylic sealants to more modern polymer sealants.

Depending on the hardness of the wax, it's spread ability, the size of the car, the amount in the can, etc you should be able to get at least 30 coats and sometimes as high as 100 coats (maybe more?) from a can. As with any product, you only need a whisper thing coating on the paint for maximum effect. Many people over apply there product and get far less use (and far more wasted product in their towels). But a lot of things have changed from the 1970s, and with proper application, it is possible to get a lot of coverage from most waxes.

Hope this helps!
 
In my experience (most likely using K-Mart products :rolleyes:) I get a lot farther using a paste style wax versus a liquid. I can easily say that I would guess my usage at about 1/2 to one ounce per application using a liquid "wax." So for a 16 ounce bottle, anywhere from 16-32 applications. I have a jar of Pinnacle Paste Glaz (imagine that, a product I use that didn't come from K-Mart) that's well over two years old that I have used many times, and I'm almost at the end of the jar. No telling how many applications I have gotten out of it, and it's a pretty soft paste.

It's sort of ironic to me, that for not having used a wax product in almost 40 years that someone can know just exactly how bad they are. You'd think to make those assumptions, one would have to have somer sort of experience with the product. Just seems odd to me, but then again I don't know anything about "professional detailing."

As a point of curiosity, Bill, how many applications can you get out of a standard size container of your sealant? The point being, are you assuming the sealant would go farther than a wax product? Unless it's something like a wipe-on walk-away type product, I can't see how there would be much difference between using a liquid sealant and a liquid wax in a per application measurement.
 
th001
I used to wax cars back in the 70's for extra money, and used wax because
that was all there was. In 1990, I found a company in Ft Lauderdale Fl.
who selling a sealant and pre cleaner products that was applied with a
orbital polisher. This sealant had a great shine, and lasted for six months.
In 1992, I found the sealant and pre cleaner I now use that has a better
shine and will last a year in Florida.

I have worked for detail shops who offer wax that they buy from vendors,
so I am aware what wax does. This what the label on the product I use
states:
A FORMULA THAT PROTECTS AGAINST CORROSION, ACID RAIN, AND ENVIRONMENTAL FALLOUT AND OXIDATION.

SPECIALLY FORMULATED FOR BASE COAT/CLEAR COAT FINISHES AS WELL AS
PAINTED FINISHES. CREATES AN IMPENETRABLE SHIELD THAT RUSTPROOFS
WEATHERPROOFS PROTECTS

A FLAWLESS, BRILLIANT SHINE THAT LASTS UP TO 5 YEARS UNDER NORMAL
CONDITONS.

OUTWEARS-OUTSHINES ANY WAX OR SILICONE POLISHES. EASY TO APPLY
AND EASY TO REMOVE

Believe it or not, but I can tell you it does what it says without a wax coating.
 
Jared
Let's do the math, it takes roughly 4 ozs to do a car and it costs me
about 33 cents on oz.,so that's $1.32 a car. It takes about 3 hours to apply
by hand, and lasts one year.You wash it with Dawn, and dry it with a cloth.
Repeat once a year, and your finish will never need polishing.
 
Wow - 4 oz to do a vehicle ?

I an do a normal sized vehicle, 3 layers worth, with 1/2 oz of Zaino Z5 or Z2 with the ZFX catlyst which is 4 drops.

It also takes me less than an hour if it is warm and dry to put on and take off all 3 layers.

I have been using Zaino for over 10 years for people's vehicles that request it.

Why do you need so much of your product? Why does it take so long to put on 3 layers?

Dan F
 
Stokdgs

When I say 4 ozs, that is an average amount. I include hand washing the
vehicle with Dawn, and using a claybar in the time. Also, applying wax is much different than this sealant because it actually bonds to the clearcoat.
With wax it sticks to the surface. Also, I apply it to the glass, smooth plastic,
chrome, and alum. rims.Lastly, I only need one coat, not 3.
 
Understand.. I think... :)

I use 1/2oz of Zaino and get 3 layers of it on because that is the maximum amount that I can apply in a 24 hour period. I dont need anymore of it until the next season fall or spring rolls around.

I could easily use 1 layer ,and cut the amount down to say less than say, less than 1/8oz, and still have enough to do all the wheels, glass, etc., if I want to.

Oh, and Zaino is described as a Show Car Polish and comes in liquid form only.

Ok, have to go finish a Jet Black M5 in the garage...

Dan F
 
billd55 said:
Jared
Let's do the math, it takes roughly 4 ozs to do a car and it costs me
about 33 cents on oz.,so that's $1.32 a car. It takes about 3 hours to apply
by hand, and lasts one year.You wash it with Dawn, and dry it with a cloth.
Repeat once a year, and your finish will never need polishing.
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4 ounces of your product and 3 hours to do a regular sized car?!?! That seems like a lot... Are you describing the whole process from wash to seal for that time frame?? For perspective, a normal sized bottle of Zaino Z2 Pro is 8 ounces. You're using nearly a half bottle of sealant in comparison to treat a vehicle??

Please describe your application process and the tools you use to apply and how that process differs from a traditional wax (liquid or paste) or a liquid sealant like Zaino.

Also, what sort of analysis are you using to determine that it lasts for one year? Are you seeing any of these cars between applications? Are you determining protective life via beading, dirt adhesion, slickness, etc?
 
Jared
Here it is in a nut shell.

1. Wash with Dawn

2. Clay bar

3. Wipe on with a terry rag (face cloth)

4. Wipe off with a terry towel right away.

That is it.

How do I know it works? When bird crap does not etch, or tree sap does not leave a dark spot.Also, people who call me back a year later.
 
billd55 said:
...This sealant had a great shine, and lasted for six months. In 1992, I found the sealant and pre cleaner I now use that has a better shine and will last a year in Florida....
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On multiple post, you talk a good game trashing waxes and promoting your unnamed, discovered sealant.

Most of the folks here that rave about a product back it up with before and after photos of their work and process.

How about some photos to back up the talk?

If they are as good as you claim we will all fill up your message box begging for the sealant's name.

As the old saying goes, "a picture is worth a thousand words"...
 
Ok, how about a boat instead

Here is a short video of a boat I started new and put a coat on every year.
It was done July of 09, and I did not use any compound to restore the
shine, but I did use a pre cleaner that this company sells to remove the haze. You will notice very little damage on a blue hull that is in salt water.
Without this sealant, it would look very different.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R0jVXWnpH8

Note: it says it was filmed in 07, it was 09
 
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