How durable is Fuzion?

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bcwang

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I've read that Wolfgang Fuzion is pretty durable, now after being out for a while I'm wondering if any can comment on it's durability with some experience.



How does it hold up compared to other durable products like



-476s

-845

-ultima PGP

-Optiseal
 
Does it REALLY matter how durable Fuzion is? Does it matter if you only get 6 weeks as opposed to 12 weeks?



I know it matters if one is thinking about a winter wax/sealanat, but spring is nearly upon us. Are you really thinking at this point, "How infrequently can I wax my car?"



Isn't looks what is most important to you?
 
After two months on a customer's car this winter, a car that sees a touchless wash at least a few times a week plus we had two ice storms, Fuzion was still beading nicely. In fact, the customer told me how pleased he was with the look and the beading.
 
Yes it does matter if you're looking for the longest lasting product. Some cars you care about enough to wax frequently. Some you don't want to work on but don't want the paint to go bad, so you want to put on something tough for sitting out in the elements 24/7.



And I'm not hoping for 6 weeks as opposed to 12 weeks, I'm talking more like 3-6 months vs 9-12 months. So far on my Cobra, UPGP applied at the beginning of November looks like it's holding on strong, beading very well with the recent rainstorms around here. It doesn't do so well on my other vehicles though, not sure what the problem is. I may have to use IPA to strip the paint on those cars and start over. So if someone has tested Fuzion to be more durable, I can consider it to try instead of UPGP in case it's some paint compatibility issue causing less durability on those cars. Either that or UPGP stands up to sun well but not dirt. Those cars get dirtier and stay that way much more than the Cobra.



In any case, whatever the reason I'd just like to find the most durable products out there. I've already got 476s and UPGP, and UPGP seems to outlast the 476s. So I'm looking for something that can beat UPGP consistently, if it exists.
 
akimel said:
Does it REALLY matter how durable Fuzion is? Does it matter if you only get 6 weeks as opposed to 12 weeks?



I know it matters if one is thinking about a winter wax/sealanat, but spring is nearly upon us. Are you really thinking at this point, "How infrequently can I wax my car?"



Isn't looks what is most important to you?
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BigJimZ28 said:
I would think that is why he asked:sign
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I see your humor Akimel.:cool:
 
In most cases carnauba blends aren't as durable as pure sealants. IME waxes tend to trap salt while sealants tend to wash cleaner.
 
Cleaning Fool said:
Agree, kind of a knucklehead response to a simple question.
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It was a knucklehead response. My apologies. The question posed by bcwang deserves a legitimate answer.



But one does not lay down the big bucks for Fuzion for its durability, though it certainly enjoys a reputation for moderate durability. One buys Fuzion because one hopes that one's car will look special, gorgeous, brilliant, rich, stunning. Perhaps the hope is foolish--as all the pros here on Autopia constantly remind us, prep is 99% of appearance--but the hope remains nonetheless, and it is only this hope that justifies Fuzion's price.



And if, just if, the promise of Fuzion is actually fulfilled in reality, then does it really matter whether we have to to wax again after 8 weeks instead of 12? Would you not gladly trade less durability for stunning looks?



I admit, however, that at this point in my life I actually enjoy waxing my car. Even if Fuzion typically lasts for three months, I will still be waxing my car every four to six weeks, at least during the non-winter months. And I suspect this obtains for most people who read this forum. We love to wax our cars, and we love the way our cars look when dressed with a fresh coat of wax. Isn't that why we non-professionals read Autopia? :bigups
 
akimel said:
It was a knucklehead response. My apologies. The question posed by bcwang deserves a legitimate answer.



But one does not lay down the big bucks for Fuzion for its durability, though it certainly enjoys a reputation for moderate durability. One buys Fuzion because one hopes that one's car will look special, gorgeous, brilliant, rich, stunning. Perhaps the hope is foolish--as all the pros here on Autopia constantly remind us, prep is 99% of appearance--but the hope remains nonetheless, and it is only this hope that justifies Fuzion's price.



And if, just if, the promise of Fuzion is actually fulfilled in reality, then does it really matter whether we have to to wax again after 8 weeks instead of 12? Would you not gladly trade less durability for stunning looks?



I admit, however, that at this point in my life I actually enjoy waxing my car. Even if Fuzion typically lasts for three months, I will still be waxing my car every four to six weeks, at least during the non-winter months. And I suspect this obtains for most people who read this forum. We love to wax our cars, and we love the way our cars look when dressed with a fresh coat of wax. Isn't that why we non-professionals read Autopia? :bigups
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Totaly agree 100%.
 
If the most durable wax also happened to be a beauty wax costing big bucks, there are those willing to pay the money to get the most durable wax without regard to if it looks good or not. I'm not saying Fuzion is this wax, just if it was I wouldn't mind buying it for that price.



So far from my research though, it looks like wolfgang deep gloss sealant 3.0 outlasts Fuzion from some huge UK van test I found on the board. And it looked like it outlasted optiseal as well as all the polycharged products. Again, this might be a compatibility issue with polycharged stuff and certain paints.



But more Fuzion vs.... would be informative.
 
Bcwang, I bought Fuzion when it went on sale back in November. I searched the internet for reviews before making my decision. My recollection is that people were reporting durability between 8 to 12 weeks, which is pretty darn good for a carnauba-synthetic hybrid.



I honestly do not know what to do with durability testimonies. They are anecdotal and unscientific. So many variables can affect the durability of any given wax or sealant on any given car at any specific time and place. For example, who would believe that Victoria Concours Red would outlast both Collinite 845 and 476s in the Biggest Wax Test?! Fuzion was included in the the Biggest Sealant Test. It lasted more than a month but less than four months. I'm not sure how one properly interprets these results. I suppose it is best simply to acknowledge them as pieces of evidence but not probative by themselves.



Good luck!
 
The single biggest issue with a lot of wax tests is potential user error in interpretting when a product is present. Also many multi product tests use so small of an area as to get potentially innacurate results. When I seen the same product being claimed as a 4 week product and a 5 month product by various forum members I realize that testing methodology can't be the same.
 
wannafbody said:
T When I seen the same product being claimed as a 4 week product and a 5 month product by various forum members I realize that testing methodology can't be the same.
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So many variables; what was used under the product, the temperature/precipition, enviromental issues like fallout and acid rain, how the vehicle is washed or not washed, etc.
 
It looks like overall impression is Fuzion is durable for a hybrid wax but not that durable compared to good sealants. I guess I'll pass on Fuzion for now.
 
willtothewong said:
well since autogeek is having them two for 100 bucks.....





that just might be a deal that is too hard to pass up



=D
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It was too hard to pass up. So was the Fuzion + cleansing lotion for $58.:2thumbs:
 
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