How do you wash in 20 degrees?

Redcar GUY said:
No, I let the water run out of the door(s) The garage floor is slanted good so it is ok. I leave the door upen about 1/4inch to let it out, then Squeegee, then shut it all the way. Someday when I build on I will put a drain in.;)
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So at 26 degrees with the water from your wash job running down your driveway, do you have much problem with ice?

It would be a skating rink, wouldn't it?



Charles
 
CharlesW said:
So at 26 degrees with the water from your wash job running down your driveway, do you have much problem with ice?

It would be a skating rink, wouldn't it?



Charles
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not mine, The garage is about 4in higher than the drive. As the water runs out to the diveway it also runs to the left out in to the yard. It is had to describe..... but it works
 
Poorboy said:
Redcar guy ...me too:xyxthumbs about building on & the drains...
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I want to build on a bay that is just for washing, I will also store the beater car/cars in there also. I love my garage But I want to have the one side "nice" and one side to wash and get dirty. I already started planning for the "next upgrade" LOL



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Poorboy said:
Natty your wife must think you're :crazy :wavey
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Right on. And you can add my neighbors in on that too.



Al B....I was at the self serve pressure wash on Wednesday afternoon and got the heavy stuff off, actually had it quite clean. What was on there when I used the S&W was just two days of road grime and salt dust residue from the roads...scattered small white specks. I did use alot more product than normal. After using the Spray and Wipe for a couple months I've got it down to about 4 oz. to do my F150 P/U sans the bed area (covered by tonneau). Believe me, it took me a while to get comfortable with this...just ask Poorboy. The light touch for me took some practice. Basically, using nothing more than the weight of the towel to let it just glide over the wet product, almost without even touch the surface of the finish. Hard to describe but it does work. Next wipe is also soft but actually touching the finish and taking off the majority of the product. Final pass with mf dries it totally.



If you've got real heavy dirt, mud or salt rinse it off first. For a few days of light road grim and dust it works great.



RedCarGuy...you are a lucky man indeed! :xyxthumbs
 
Natty,



I knew you would get it down to a science. Yes they key is little or no pressure at all. I like to call it flopping. Just let the mf and the product do what their supposed to do, clean. Good explanation of how to use.:xyxthumbs

steve
 
lol. Natty, I'm about an hr south of you in Somerset County, NJ and it was 45-50 today. Got out there and spent 5 hrs cleaning up my Volkswagen GTI. Wasn't so bad out, but it was spritzing rain drops all day. So as soon as I was done washing and drying, I pulled in the garage where I had a heater warming up



Tried Blackfire and thoroughly impressed. :xyxthumbs



Back to topic. I'm afraid if I used that product, I would use too less, or use it wrong to start and leave swirls all over the car. Especially with roadsalt, which can leave scratches all over.



I assume this product is for non-heavily dirty/salted cars. Perhaps cleaning with this product within a few days of the last real "washing"
 
jrh382,

actually people tend to over use the product at first, then learn to use less. I always tell people it's your car/truck use as much as necessary to feel comfortable. It's always advisable to rinse heavy dirt, grime or salt off first, but If you have no choice, it'll do the job scratch and swirl free , but you'll use a lot more and a lot more cloths too. For those who keep on top of their vehicle's appearance a few days of road grime will be little or no effort at all to clean. Hope I answered your fear:scared :xyxthumbs
 
JRH...like Poorboy said, the first few times you use it you'll use way more than needed. The first time I used it I couldn't even do my wife's Taurus with a 16 oz. bottle LOL. Now, 4 oz. does my pickup.



And yes, heavy dirt still requires a wash unless you want to use the full 16 oz bottle on the car. Not cost effective but if you have no other option then it will work.



Be down by you in the morning for my usual Sunday AM ice - hockey session for my son. Practice at Bridgewater Arena at 7:00am :-( . It was colder than a witches *** the yesterday morning wasn't it?



Saw a VW Corrado GTi on rt. 80 on the way to work the other day. It was really clean and had a for sale sign on it. Man, I love that car. Basically, a Scirroco GTi. I think they were the cars that ushered in the sport compact craze...way ahead of their time. Nice cars.
 
I'm just getting familiar with the QEW product, but this product appears to fill an even different niche. When my vehicle is just too dusty/dirty to QD, but not dirty enough to break out the QEW?



PoorBoy, Natty (or whomever cares to respond),



When you say "flopping" or just using the weight of the MF for the initial pass, would the technique/procedure be to lay the MF flat and grabbing two corners pull the MF toward you?



Thanks for the input, and thank you Steve for the discount offer.
 
AlBoston said:
Natty... How could you spray and wipe all the salt off the car... Wouldn't that swirl the S**t out of it? I am a little lost here...
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ME TOO!

PB can you enlighten me? Is Natty talking about a spray wipe and wash or the normal QD stuff? Will Z6 do the same without scratching my black surface?

Thanks,

Bruce
 
Good morning all. I will try to answer the past few question. Natty and I are dicussing Spray and Wipe. We have discussed technics a few times since he used a 16oz bottle his first time for 1 car. I told him to use less pressure and let the mf cloth and the product do the work. I as I believe most of you know to work back and forth rather than circles, this will always help prevent swirl marks. Clean it in the same kind of strokes a painter would do if painting. Consider yourselves artists of your vehicle. When I mean flopping Mr. Clean by NO MEANS use like a chamois. I like to use 18 x 36 mf folded in half and let it glide sucking up dirt in its' way and turning as it gets too damp and dirty. I've also done it with 2 16 x 16 mf over lapped and again light back and forth motion turning as it gets dirty. Your first couple of uses you should have a few extra mf for typical over use first time. Also here's a tip after you mf is getting a bit damp...do your windows with the product in the mf...no need to spray on unless a lot of bugs or sap to work off. In the summer and those of you who live in warm climates, it'll actually start drying the mf towel on the warm/hot glass. I hope I covered it. If not ask what you want to know. Thanks for asking good questions.

steve
 
Mr. Clean said:
I'm just getting familiar with the QEW product, but this product appears to fill an even different niche. When my vehicle is just too dusty/dirty to QD, but not dirty enough to break out the QEW?



PoorBoy, Natty (or whomever cares to respond),



When you say "flopping" or just using the weight of the MF for the initial pass, would the technique/procedure be to lay the MF flat and grabbing two corners pull the MF toward you?



Thanks for the input, and thank you Steve for the discount offer.
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Like PB said, I do not use it like a chamois or waffle waeve MF. I use 16x16 mf, folded in half or even in quarter. Just barely touch the towel to the product almost without even touch the towel to the finish. You're sort of skimming to towel over. If you do get the towel down onto the surface, no biggie as long as there is product there and of course, you aren't rubbing but instead, wiping (as PB likes to say).



I'm having a tough time articulating how I use it and like I've said before, it took me a while to get to this point with the Spay and Wipe and not without alot of second guessing and concern. The proof for me is in the lights. Right where I park my truck I have two outdoor floods that are merciless when it comes to showing imperfections. I haven't seen any swirls or marring, other than ones I know about already, as a result of using Spray and Wipe.



Since I got the truck all nice and clean, last night we had some snow and freezing rain so out came the salt spreaders again. Just taking my kid to hockey this morning my truck is once again covered in salt spray. IMO, way too much for me to even think about using the Spray and Wipe. Guess I'll be at the self serve wash again after dinner.
 
Steve and Natty,



Thanks for the explanations, I think I have a visual of your wiping technique. It is similar in a fashion to my first pass method when using the QEW product.



Natty, what was it that took you from using 16 oz of product on your wife's Taurus in October to just 4 oz in November? Purely practice?
 
Can anyone explain the differences (or pros and cons) between the Spray & Wash type product and the Quick & Easy Wash type product? Assume a heat wave of 33 degrees F, so that the freeze point won't be a factor. I guess I'm trying to figure out what circumstances one may be more appropriate than the other.:nixweiss

Thanks.:)
 
Old Rattle Flat said:
Can anyone explain the differences (or pros and cons) between the Spray & Wash type product and the Quick & Easy Wash type product? Assume a heat wave of 33 degrees F, so that the freeze point won't be a factor. I guess I'm trying to figure out what circumstances one may be more appropriate than the other.:nixweiss

Thanks.:)
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I've not used Q&E wash yet but I'll try. Q&E wash is still a bucket wash but without the hose. Spray and Wipe is a hoselss, bucketless wash. The product you srpay on and wipe off is it, nothing more.



Between these two products the need to break out the hose is greatly reduced.



Hope I got it right on the Q&E...like I said, I've not used it yet.
 
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