How bad can an $8 coating be?

Dan said:
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TBH, my money is on the fact that someone is having their coating products made in China and these are making their way out the back door or it was just straight cloned. For the that region in the world lacks in inventiveness they excel at copycatting.
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Given the number of coatings that have appeared in the last year or so alone, I`m guessing many are just re-labeled...
 
Well I went for it, one fender coated on the VW. Quick notes:

-Pretty grabby on application
-Fairly thick, same consistancy as Opticoat
-Pretty hard to see high spots, does not do the rainbow color like other coatings
-After drying for a little bit, it seems pretty grabby, we`ll see what happens as it cures.
-A little goes a long way! Fender was coated with 15-20 drops?
-Not much, if any, darkening effect

To be honest, I`m not sure I got it on right, this is not my first coating, but I didn`t get any real instructions, I applied it, let if flash for a few minutes just as it was starting to get tacky, I wiped off the excess.

And for those of you that have served (thank you!), there is a new "veteran" forumula:

https://www.ebay.com/p/9h-Hardness-...Hydrophobic-Glass-Polish-Wax-Care/18006971303
 
Thanks for actually using the product. I’m still chicken to use mine. The blue bottle seems to be used by many coating “manufacturers”.
 
I`m tempted to try it. How wrong could it be for $8? Problem is, I`ve got 5 other coatings wasting away :(
 
I saw one for 15.00. I started thinking about it. Coming from China and being that cheap, let`s see. Order chemicals that are coming out of China in very small batches not being inspected...I`ll pass.
 
Dan said:
Is any coating independently tested for safety?
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Good question. I would think the ones that are imported hundreds or thousands at a time are more likely to be tested. The ones made in the US, if they are using something that shouldn`t be in there they run the risk of being shut down.

Someone actually gave me one from China that was about 10.00. I used a little bit. Their probably fine. I just made a personal decision not to use them anymore. I hope they work out for you, the price is definitely right.

The guy that gave me the bottle said he can take a stick and scrape it on the coating and it won`t scratch. It will be interesting to see what kind of durability they have.
 
DaveT435 said:
I saw one for 15.00. I started thinking about it. Coming from China and being that cheap, let`s see. Order chemicals that are coming out of China in very small batches not being inspected...I`ll pass.
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I don`t think you have much to worry about compared to anything else you would use for a detail, like aerosol tar remover.

I would wager these are essentially a bare bones product. There are plenty of additives and alternate bases and solvents out there that will bring the price up very quickly.

Cheap base and solvent: combo $60/liter, when purchasing a liter or each.

Very high end additive: $45/gram

I would be more worried about the expensive ones from china that could actually afford to add something really nasty, like an isocyanate.
 
I ordered this morning. I`ll coat the front end of my rolling coating test bed and see how she endures the winter season.
 
Audios S6 said:
I would be more worried about the expensive ones from china that could actually afford to add something really nasty, like an isocyanate.
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IMO those people [freakin`] hate us. Whenever possible, I avoid contact with anything from there. Whenever it`s feasible I try to avoid even *buying* anything from there (why feed the monster that wants to eat you?), but that`s pretty tough any more.
 
Dan said:
Well I went for it, one fender coated on the VW. Quick notes:

-Pretty grabby on application
-Fairly thick, same consistancy as Opticoat
-Pretty hard to see high spots, does not do the rainbow color like other coatings
-After drying for a little bit, it seems pretty grabby, we`ll see what happens as it cures.
-A little goes a long way! Fender was coated with 15-20 drops?
-Not much, if any, darkening effect

To be honest, I`m not sure I got it on right, this is not my first coating, but I didn`t get any real instructions, I applied it, let if flash for a few minutes just as it was starting to get tacky, I wiped off the excess.

And for those of you that have served (thank you!), there is a new "veteran" forumula:

https://www.ebay.com/p/9h-Hardness-...Hydrophobic-Glass-Polish-Wax-Care/18006971303
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The guy that gave me the bottle said his instructions came in his email...
 
tom p. said:
I ordered this morning. I`ll coat the front end of my rolling coating test bed and see how she endures the winter season.
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Ha, looking forward to see what you think of it.

I keep rubbing my hand over this stuff, I cannot believe how utterly grabby it is, in a terrible bad way. It almost feels like that rubbery coating they used on cell phones about 10 years ago. Not sure how long I`m going to be able to tolerate this!

And I did the math, McKee`s is ~$12 per 30ml before any coupons. If you are thining this is the answer to your cheap coating dreams, think twice.
 
Dan said:
Ha, looking forward to see what you think of it.

I keep rubbing my hand over this stuff, I cannot believe how utterly grabby it is, in a terrible bad way. It almost feels like that rubbery coating they used on cell phones about 10 years ago. Not sure how long I`m going to be able to tolerate this!

And I did the math, McKee`s is ~$12 per 30ml before any coupons. If you are thining this is the answer to your cheap coating dreams, think twice.
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He threw the instructions he got in his email away. He said they were like instructions for most other coatings. Apply a thin even coat, let flash, and remove. The price on his was 30.00, but they sent him 3 bottles. Opticoat 2.0 used to be grabby, or more of a squeaky clean type grabby, not what you`re describing and it worked real well. Glad you came to the conclusion an American made product was actually a better buy.
He`s taking a stick and rubbing it in the coating and getting no scratches. Actually I would expect scratches with a blunt object, maybe some marring, which may be there if you looked at different angles. Glad you did the math on the McKee`s that is a good buy. I don`t think the new formula has been out long enough to have any kind of durability testing, haven`t heard of any failing prematurely yet.
 
Dan, I`m still going to give it a try once it arrives.

I`ve got the McKee`s product and have spent a fair bit of time with it. Seems pretty good.
 
DaveT435 said:
He threw the instructions he got in his email away. He said they were like instructions for most other coatings. Apply a thin even coat, let flash, and remove. The price on his was 30.00, but they sent him 3 bottles. Opticoat 2.0 used to be grabby, or more of a squeaky clean type grabby, not what you`re describing and it worked real well. Glad you came to the conclusion an American made product was actually a better buy.
He`s taking a stick and rubbing it in the coating and getting no scratches. Actually I would expect scratches with a blunt object, maybe some marring, which may be there if you looked at different angles. Glad you did the math on the McKee`s that is a good buy. I don`t think the new formula has been out long enough to have any kind of durability testing, haven`t heard of any failing prematurely yet.
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I`ve had three personal vehicles that I`ve done with Opticoat. That felt like bare paint. This stuff is grabby like rubber.
 
There are several new reviews of this product on YouTube that show application and water tests. Nothing yet on durability but the users had nothing negative to say about the coating.
 
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