Hot and cold hose bib

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imported_Aurora40

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Man, I'm having a heck of a time finding one that has two inlets and shut-offs. I want to run hot water out front through just one bib. Anyone done this? I checked out Home Depot and Lowes to no avail. I'd rather not have two bibs and some y-pipe...



And, any tips on drilling through the house? I can easily get to where the current cold-water bib/line comes out inside and such, but I've never drilled through an exterior wall of a building before... :eek:
 
But a washing machine spout doesn't merge them together. If it has two spigots, I can't hook a hose up and get warm water. Do you have some kind of y-pipe after the bib?
 
What type of exterior do you have on your house? If it's the cement fiberboard or brick, you'll need a masonry bit. Go to Lowes or HD and check there.



As far as the 2 in 1... It might take some jerry-rigging, but it will probably work. Might look a little tacky, so hopefully it will be in the basement or hidden well. Find a Y-Split. Run the Hot & Cold lines into the "female" part of the splitter, and then run the "male" part of the splitter through the wall. At that point, you could hook up a regular spigot or what ever then. If the Splitter is plastic, you might want to put individual shut-offs on each line (this would also help control your mix) as I'm not sure how those things would hold up over time of being constantly under pressure.



Hot-----X--\ |

.................}---|--~

Cold ---X--/ |



(I know, I missed my calling... should have done ASCII art :) )
 
Thanks guys! zzyyzx, if I put the join/y inside the house, I'd have to go into the basement to adjust the temperature. I have vinyl siding, no idea about anything else (except it isn't brick). I'll just take a look at the existing hole when I pull out the cold bib first to make sure there isn't anything I need to be aware of.



Bob, that's what I'm looking for:

valve-woodford-200x96.jpg




I was hoping someone would have the line on a local one so I could get started sooner, but I may just have to order one up. That freezeless is interesting, seems the actual shut-off is way back in it. Neat idea. I will use the kind of shut-off valve that has a little fitting on the side to drain the downstream side (stop and waste or something? some two word thing I can't think of now), so I'm not sure freezing will be a problem, but better safe than sorry, ehh?



I've worked with CPVC and am looking forward to my first time working with copper and a blowtorch! :D
 
I'd love to do something similar at my house. I tend to wash the cars much quicker this time of year :D It would be nice to have warm water to wash with.
 
When we rented a townhouse I put in warm water, though I couldn't adjust the temp. It really helps. For one, dirt and stuff comes off a lot better with warm water. You can really see it in how much more easily crud comes out of wheelwells. But mainly it takes a lot less toll on my hands. It isn't until the drying stage that my hands start to freeze. :)
 
Send me a PM



One I can help you get it (the hose bibb)

second I can give you a better Idea (mixing valve)

third I can tell you what you need to install it

fourth I can tell you what you need to drill the holes.



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Yeah, it's a MAPP torch that I got. :) Wouldn't a two-valved thing like that in the picture be less likely to have any leaking problems or crossover condition than a mixing valve? This thing will be outside the house, and I'd rather have something I probably won't ever have to mess with again.



OI812, I shot you a PM.



Thanks for the help folks! :wavey
 
Here is a picture of the Hot and Cold Hose Bibb.



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If I get a chance I will take a picture of the whole unit and post it. You might be surprised at how big it actually is. This is a commercial unit
 
Aurora40 said:
Bob, that's what I'm looking for:

valve-woodford-200x96.jpg




I was hoping someone would have the line on a local one so I could get started sooner, but I may just have to order one up. That freezeless is interesting..
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I dunno, I have the Woodward 22 in both one of my garages and in my subbasement. I do *not* like them and am having the subbasement one replaced. I have boosted pressure, so maybe this wouldn't be a problem for you, but the pressure relieving thing sprays water everywhere when I shut off the hoze nozzle! Real mess. Can't just unscrew/replace/remove it as it uses an odd thread size that you won't find at the hardware store. I'm getting a faucet that combines the hot and cold just the way you want it- I already have two of these in my "new garage" (where I detail) and the work well. No link, but look into: Chicago Faucets, "Wall Mount Exposed Faucets". If my plumbing contractor was in town I'd ask him for the model # but he's away at present. You'd have to see about freezing/exposed conditions, but they're nicely chrome plated and wouldn't IMO be an eyesore.
 
Pressure relieving thing? I don't want it spraying all over the house. Why would it do that anyway, though? Thanks for the tip on it.



As an aside, my new MAPP torch was just the thing for loosening a pesky O2 sensor today! :D
 
I ordered the mixing valve from a local place. I should have it in a week (I hope, I can't wait). It was about $280 plus the shipping cost to the store. I went with the chrome finish. I think that might look more industrial, but it's behind bushes. And also I was worried a brass finish might get unevenly discolored being outside and have a sort of splotchy look eventually. I think the chrome would be the least likely to change in look.



The only place I saw online was this: http://www.plumbingwarehouse.com/woodfordwallhydrants.html#hc67



It's funny, I actually saw three surprisingly similar stores with the same exact price sheet, and such. Sort of like some detailing stores that have different names but are basically the same. :nixweiss
 
I'm getting a slightly different one from OI812. It does have the two knobs to control the hot and cold which I kind of like better then just the one and it will also fit in my wall that other one is huge I was going to go with it but after I saw pictures of what goes in the wall there was no way to make it fit. Not sure on total price shipped yet but some where in the $45-$65 range. Here's a picture of it.





woodford-wallfaucet-v22.png
 
Aurora40 said:
Pressure relieving thing? I don't want it spraying all over the house. Why would it do that anyway, though?
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It's the same thing that relieves pressure if the line freezes. The cylindrical thing that screws into it (and it has weird threads so you can't just replace it easily) will "pop off" at a certain pressure regardless of what causes it. I dunno, my problem might be due to my boosted pressure, but I just wanted to give a heads-up. I can't really use the one in the subbasement (at least with a hose on it) until I get a different one in there.
 
Accumulator said:
It's the same thing that relieves pressure if the line freezes.
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Oh, I thought they just had the shut-off valve really far back so that it's inside the wall. As long as it angles down a bit there wont' be any water in the outside part to freeze.



But still, obviously yours is spraying. Here's hoping the mixing valve won't do that... :)
 
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