Hey Kevin Brown Thanks Bud!!!!

Heh heh, Barry Theal, Kevin Brown, and David Fermani all doing the mutual-admiration-society thing on the same thread :D All three of you guys deserve all the credit anyone could bestow and then some :xyxthumbs



Barry Theal- [Insert usual :bow regarding Barry's work here...]



I'll be looking forward to the full write up on this one! What, no wetsanding? :chuckle:



That was good of you, posting that link to the KBM.
 
There are two things about Mr Kevin Brown that I find interesting.



1. His wealth of knowledge.



2. More impressive is his humility.
 
Scottwax said:
KB method works great on softer clears, but I've got to use the rotary on Audis. On the cars I've used the KB method overall have tured out really well.
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Exactly...



And even then, I can only stand so much vibration..
 
Barry Theal said:
Kevin



No thank you. I recently have been really playing around and got serious about this method and life has gotton easier!! This car is a mess and Ill be able to knock it out in 2 steps instead of 3. It doesn't get much better. Wait till you see how bad this car is. Ill send the write up link when I''m done. Its just outstanding results that are true. Thanks Bud!
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Never say never. :D



I'll pm you later.



Great work BTW.



And thanks KB for making the pc popular.



Many of us were doing correction with the pc before 105 came along in a similar fashion, but were laughed at by some of the detailing nacis.

The funny thing is that now few of those guys are using them as well. :grinno::grinno::grinno:
 
KBM has been promising a paper on a special way to polish cars for a long long time. I admire his work. I would like to see his work finalized.
 
tdekany said:
And thanks KB for making the pc popular.



Many of us were doing correction with the pc before 105 came along in a similar fashion, but were laughed at by some of the detailing nacis.

The funny thing is that now few of those guys are using them as well. :grinno::grinno::grinno:
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:buffing: :2thumbs: :buffing:
 
MDRX8 said:
KBM has been promising a paper on a special way to polish cars for a long long time. I admire his work. I would like to see his work finalized.
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That FREAKING PAPER!!! It is going to be the DEATH of me. I am SO frustrated because I am SO close to finishing. Thankfully, there is A LOT of info out and about, and some of the paper reiterates what is now commonly known. Rest assured, I want it done more than anybody else wants to see it!!!



ThomasC said:
OK, I didn't have much of a problem until the 'reverse rotation' thing-anyone want to help me out here?
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Are you referring to when the pad reverse rotates for no apparent reason?

Here are four diagrams that may help (they are simplified and don't really delve into the logisitics/physics behind the motion. As a matter of fact... the random rotation discussion is EXACTLY what has me bogged down. I am just working through proper wording and whatnot. It's tough because I will work on a paragraph for what seems like hours, only to change it a week later. "You're KILLIN' me, Smalls!"...



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Kevin thank you, still can't get my arms around the pads reversing without the motor reversing, need to think about it more.
 
Got_Leather said:
Exactly...



And even then, I can only stand so much vibration..
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Surbuf and a R/O is the answer if orange won't cut it. Nice thing about the surbuf is they require less pressure then orange via the KBM.



Vibration?



The G110v2 can do at speed 5 what the XPPC can do at 6.



G110v2 has less vibration at speed 6 then XP at speed 6. So at speed 5 the v2 has a lot less vibration then the XP at speed 6.



Just got this in today.



Hopefully will get to try it out next week on a black lexus LS430.



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gmblack3a said:
Surbuf and a R/O is the answer if orange won't cut it. Nice thing about the surbuf is they require less pressure then orange via the KBM.



Vibration?



The G110v2 can do at speed 5 what the XPPC can do at 6.



G110v2 has less vibration at speed 6 then XP at speed 6. So at speed 5 the v2 has a lot less vibration then the XP at speed 6.



Just got this in today.



Hopefully will get to try it out next week on a black lexus LS430.



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Good thing a G110v2 is on its way!! I know this method works but for a good portion of the cars I'm doing, I'll stick with the Makita for the Audi's, Infinity's and Vette's. I had it work especially well on Black Acura for me. Looked awesome.
 
gmblack3a said:
Surbuf and a R/O is the answer if orange won't cut it.
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Yup. I hear ya. If I get a nasty car with heavy defects I'll just buzz the panel down with some 3000 Trizact and it will easily and quickly level the surface. Then, the great thing is using 105/DA to easily and quickly make the surface almost LSP ready. Moving forward (and looking back) I bet I could do that process in 2/3 the time it would take to rotary/middle step/final polish it.
 
tdekany said:
Never say never. :D



I'll pm you later.



Great work BTW.



And thanks KB for making the pc popular.



Many of us were doing correction with the pc before 105 came along in a similar fashion, but were laughed at by some of the detailing nacis.

The funny thing is that now few of those guys are using them as well. :grinno::grinno::grinno:
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Still waiting on the PM.
 
David Fermani said:
Yup. I hear ya. If I get a nasty car with heavy defects I'll just buzz the panel down with some 3000 Trizact and it will easily and quickly level the surface. Then, the great thing is using 105/DA to easily and quickly make the surface almost LSP ready. Moving forward (and looking back) I bet I could do that process in 2/3 the time it would take to rotary/middle step/final polish it.
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:har:Why even buzz them down with 3000?:LOLOL One step works for me!!!!:hifive:



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gmblack3a- Hmmm...I'll be interested to hear how you like the Festool!





ThomasC said:
Kevin thank you, still can't get my arms around the pads reversing without the motor reversing, need to think about it more.
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Note that with the PC/etc. the rotation is free-wheeling; the plate/pad can spin in either direction. Which direction it spins depends on what kind of forces are combining to act upon it.



IMO the take-home-lesson is simply to not apply so much force that the pad quits spinning in the desired manner, and one way to ensure that is to use smaller pads for work where you expect to be applying a lot of pressure.
 
Tnks Accumlulator but it still doesn't sink in, the pad may freewheel but the armature when energized does not.

Putting excessive downward pressure on a buffer would increase the current draw until the thermal switch opened at flr, still confused but still thinking....
 
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