I can understand peoples feeling about Matt/OG in both respects but I don`t really understand people comparing prices of single mist spray heads with double mist spray heads/bottles. I do understand if people prefer a standard single mist spray head that just flat out works really well and I could be wrong but I think Matt was looking for a good alternative to the Kwazar bottles.
Here we gooo ! Been waiting 4 these bottles.
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Do you know which brand of the sprayer head he got from EU?
And the bottle was from another brand if I understand it right?
Just to mention about chemical resistant spray heads. It`s impossible to have a chemical resistant sprayer head from the lowest ph level to the highest ph level and also resistant to harsh solvents. If you look at the Kwazar they have the light blue line which is the generic for allround chemicals but not in the absolute highest or lowest range. These also comes in different colors and even in the colors that I`m about to mention. The seals are FPM in these spray heads. And these double action spray heads is named with Mercury Super. Mercury Super HD Alka Line is the dark blue spray heads. And is for the as the name suggest high alkaline products. The seals are EPDM in these spray heads. For the solvent you have the single spray heads in red and the acid resistant in blue with these.
When you go with the pump sprayer bottles the line is called Venus Super. The light blue is the generic one and no color options from these. And the Venus Super HD Alka Line is the dark blue pump sprayer bottle.
The Venus Super HD Acid Line is the red pump sprayer bottle and also has the FPM seals but is of a right mix of FPM to stand up to the lower ph level acids.
The Venus Super HD Solvent is the black pump sprayer bottle. It has Viton seals in them. These are for solvent based degreaser and when useing silicone and wax removers or any solvent or petroleum based product.
The Venus Super Foamer is the foaming pressure bottle. Comes in the generic light blue and the red acid line and the dark blue alkaline.
These comes also in the iK9 Foamer looking pressure sprayers. Both in pressure spray and foaming in the 3 colors of light blue and red and dark blue and with the chemical resistant that follows those colors. The volume in the tanks you can have at 3L, 6L, 9L and 12Liters. This is just under 1-2-3-4 gallons as 1 gallon is about 3,8 liters.
So look closely if you have any chemicals that is on the lowest or highest or solvent based products. And chose a spray head that have the right seals. And also even if very chemical resistant it`s good to release the pressure from the pump sprayer bottles and flush the sprayer heads clean with water and put in the sprayer again in the bottle with your product when storeing them. This makes you have the spray bottles for a very long time before the seals wears down. And from Kwazar you have parts to buy to repair your pump/pressure spray bottles at least. I`m not good at this but if a seals goes broken it`s on me. This is also other brands than Kwazar that have these different seals. Epoca and Gloria and Mesto(IIRC is where Griots Garage gets their pressure spray bottles from) is some other big brands here in EU. And you can see them rebranded as this is very common to do. But also there can be different qualities inside of one brand too. Also a seal is very easy to damage during the assemble of them. So if you gotten one defect bottle right out of the box it`s not so very uncommon. And some dismiss some spray bottles when they have used a chemical that the seal can not handle.
And the bottle was from another brand if I understand it right?
Just to mention about chemical resistant spray heads. It`s impossible to have a chemical resistant sprayer head from the lowest ph level to the highest ph level and also resistant to harsh solvents. If you look at the Kwazar they have the light blue line which is the generic for allround chemicals but not in the absolute highest or lowest range. These also comes in different colors and even in the colors that I`m about to mention. The seals are FPM in these spray heads. And these double action spray heads is named with Mercury Super. Mercury Super HD Alka Line is the dark blue spray heads. And is for the as the name suggest high alkaline products. The seals are EPDM in these spray heads. For the solvent you have the single spray heads in red and the acid resistant in blue with these.
When you go with the pump sprayer bottles the line is called Venus Super. The light blue is the generic one and no color options from these. And the Venus Super HD Alka Line is the dark blue pump sprayer bottle.
The Venus Super HD Acid Line is the red pump sprayer bottle and also has the FPM seals but is of a right mix of FPM to stand up to the lower ph level acids.
The Venus Super HD Solvent is the black pump sprayer bottle. It has Viton seals in them. These are for solvent based degreaser and when useing silicone and wax removers or any solvent or petroleum based product.
The Venus Super Foamer is the foaming pressure bottle. Comes in the generic light blue and the red acid line and the dark blue alkaline.
These comes also in the iK9 Foamer looking pressure sprayers. Both in pressure spray and foaming in the 3 colors of light blue and red and dark blue and with the chemical resistant that follows those colors. The volume in the tanks you can have at 3L, 6L, 9L and 12Liters. This is just under 1-2-3-4 gallons as 1 gallon is about 3,8 liters.
So look closely if you have any chemicals that is on the lowest or highest or solvent based products. And chose a spray head that have the right seals. And also even if very chemical resistant it`s good to release the pressure from the pump sprayer bottles and flush the sprayer heads clean with water and put in the sprayer again in the bottle with your product when storeing them. This makes you have the spray bottles for a very long time before the seals wears down. And from Kwazar you have parts to buy to repair your pump/pressure spray bottles at least. I`m not good at this but if a seals goes broken it`s on me. This is also other brands than Kwazar that have these different seals. Epoca and Gloria and Mesto(IIRC is where Griots Garage gets their pressure spray bottles from) is some other big brands here in EU. And you can see them rebranded as this is very common to do. But also there can be different qualities inside of one brand too. Also a seal is very easy to damage during the assemble of them. So if you gotten one defect bottle right out of the box it`s not so very uncommon. And some dismiss some spray bottles when they have used a chemical that the seal can not handle.
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Yeah I’ve had great luck with kwazar’s and these look like an expensive alternative. I have no problem with lids coming loose if you give them a good torque. I use the kwazars for LSP and waterless washes. Use Zep’s for heavier chemicals.
Got these off of the interwebs and the we’re about 10$. Thought they were kwazar knock offs but surprise! Had them 2 months loaded with a mix of Ech20 and Clutch and another with N-914 for about 2 months. Use the one with N-914 ALOT and it’s been a beast
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Got these off of the interwebs and the we’re about 10$. Thought they were kwazar knock offs but surprise! Had them 2 months loaded with a mix of Ech20 and Clutch and another with N-914 for about 2 months. Use the one with N-914 ALOT and it’s been a beast
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I like my bottles with the measurements on the side and I like to see how much is left in the bottle. OGs solid bottles just wouldn’t work for me. I would be interested in trying out his sprayers after he gets the chemical resistant problems fixed. I’m not going to be his beta tester at his price. He stated he was going to sell them at a price where HE was going to make it worth his while but with no warranty for his customer. He lost me as a customer. You have to stand behind your products. He should have bought a few of each and tested them out before palming them off to paying customers. At least he was upfront about ripping you off, lol.
Yeah I’ve had great luck with kwazar’s and these look like an expensive alternative. I have no problem with lids coming loose if you give them a good torque. I use the kwazars for LSP and waterless washes. Use Zep’s for heavier chemicals.
Got these off of the interwebs and the we’re about 10$. Thought they were kwazar knock offs but surprise! Had them 2 months loaded with a mix of Ech20 and Clutch and another with N-914 for about 2 months. Use the one with N-914 ALOT and it’s been a beast
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My local D&B Supply store has these and they have been working great for me. Just wish they had more than one size/color but yeah, hard to beat the price.
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I just ordered a labeled to label. The smaller ones are cheapest on AG with their 25% off so I’ve got 6 of those too.
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MattPersman
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I don’t understand the fandom for the guy but he’s made quite a bit of money from people that like to listen to him
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jatleson
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Was poking around Menards the other day and stumbled upon 28oz round, opaque, engraved dilution/measurement marking. no branding/writing bottles for $.96 a piece (Menards SKU 2140580). We`ll see how well the spayer holds up and the plastic for the bottle is a little thin, for the price it is hard to beat. The Griot`s 22`s are my favorite, but it is hard to swallow their price for empty bottles. The standard 32 ounce bottles are a little tall for my shelving.
Yeah I’ve had great luck with kwazar’s and these look like an expensive alternative. I have no problem with lids coming loose if you give them a good torque. I use the kwazars for LSP and waterless washes. Use Zep’s for heavier chemicals.
Got these off of the interwebs and the we’re about 10$. Thought they were kwazar knock offs but surprise! Had them 2 months loaded with a mix of Ech20 and Clutch and another with N-914 for about 2 months. Use the one with N-914 ALOT and it’s been a beast
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Have one of these Black spray heads from a domestic detailing company and shop. It`s like the light blue colored ones and work as great. Don`t know if Adam`s has the Red ones that is like the generic light blue Kwazar in the US. Or if it`s something that the Adam`s Swedish shop has. Got a sweet deal on those like $6 for the 0,5L and $7 for the 1L also with the 360 ability which I like a lot.
OG could have done a large order to have the bottles and spray heads customized. From most of these manufactures. He seems to be up in volume of sales to be doing it. And what I know of the price of them when being custom made is not so much different. It`s depending on the print on the bottle of cause. But a nice thing to offering your customer with. This would be cool if Autopia and Autogeek would have done. The printing label on the bottles they have now would be much more interesting for brand loyal customers.
Have an 1L Epoca Foam spray bottle. When used it the second time in the beginning of last year it was broken or really clogged. The foam just spitting out of it. Had BH Surfex HD at 1:20 and thought it could be the problem as the foam was crazy thick. Got so disappointed so just put it away and not looking it up closely LOL. A month ago I was seeing this foamer again and thought about getting it work again. Was just 1 of the tube inside of the bottle that was a little loose and got the air mix screwed up LOL. And with the chemical standing in the bottle and foam sprayer head it worked great when I just fixed this LOL. Will test it out in 1:30-1:40 with BH Surfex HD and use it on the tires and on the bug squash. The cleaning ability in 1:20 is very effective to even desolve the road film that gets on the vehicals during winter months. And also LSP safe at that dilution. But the more gentle dilution the better in the longrun. You can use this straight up on stains and fresher tar spots and tree sap this way. Is also going to be useing it to foam the engine compartment to degrease and get the heavy cleaning with 1:20 dilution.
A tips if getting a pump foamer is to get a 2L bottle or a half gallon. As the pressure is holding up much better the larger bottles you have. And also don`t fill the bottle on a foamer as it needs to be a good amount of air in the bottle to create foam and it`s use the air too as a normal pump sprayer bottle don`t do as it`s just for pressure. That`s why many get confused when they need to be pumping a foamer way more than a pump sprayer. Haveing thoughts to get a bigger foamer like iK9 Foamer looking one. The Kwazar and the iK9 I can get for around $80. Wonders if any quality difference from them though. Not far from me I can get a look and inspecting the iK9 Foamer. The Kwazar Orion Foamers looks like a great quality and also spare parts is easy to ordering if needed. They also have a pressure gauge on the wand on the Kwazar LOL. The thought is to use it at the wash bay during winter months for touchless washing or a prewash before a waterless wash or rinseless wash if the weather allows. Sorry for rambling LOL
You aren`t the only one who "discovered` that Meg Wheel Brightener acids eat though "chemical-resistant" spray nozzles in a hurry. I went though two (2) somewhat expensive SprayMaster nozzles in about two weeks. Did not return them under their 5-year guarantee, as the shipping cost was not worth it. Ended up using repurposed Eagle One A-to-Z Wheel Cleaner nozzles that were cleaned religiously after using them with Megs Wheel Brightener at about 3:1 dilution (yes, pretty strong), but they "only" last about 8 applications. Still a lot better than SprayMaster nozzles (piece of crap in my opinion!) Have not tried the gold Tolco acid-resistant sprayer nozzles yet.
I may have to resort to mild solution of baking soda and water as rinse to try to neutralize the Wheel Brightener acid and increase the longevity of my repurposed Eagle One A-to-Z nozzles.
By the way, Eagle One A-to-Z Wheel cleaner works REALLY good on cleaning white aluminum siding. I end up with a lot of road salt debris (sometimes referred to as Traffic Road Film, or TRF) that waifs through the air from the nearby street throughout the winter and it does "eat" my very old siding and turn it black. Spring cleaning is just around the corner and this stuff is the ONLY thing I found that works to remove that black corrosion. I may have to try the Meg`s Detailer Line Non-acid Wheel Cleaner I got last year and see if that is as effective.
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Seems to be someone for every personality type. I dont like his personality at all (on video). But just as I stated to others who like to rag on Pan. I just don’t tune in. By watching the video of someone who you don’t like, agree, or can’t stand....you are still supporting them. I dont get it.
I watched this one because if it is a better bottle I would have bought one.
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Have you tested one of the Eagle One acid based wheel cleaner and used that bottle and spray head with Megs D140? The Kwazar Red Pump Pressure Bottle would be the one I would go with if haveing the D140 Wheel Brightener. If the D140 is easy rinsed off I would just put the spray head in a bottle with water and rinse it out with just spraying it. Then put the spray head back into the bottle with the D140.
I don`t use it so much but have anyone problem with waterless washes or some QD or spray waxes? That it mess with the seals in the spray heads. If so they can be a slightly acidic or as DG Aquawax that is as acidic as D140 Wheel Brightener. One thing is to use an acid based products bottle or the Kwazar Red Pump Pressure Bottle would work great I think. A pump pressure spray bottle I find is just as easy if not more easier to use with products that you spray a lot with. Sure a little more expensive when getting them but for me they hold up great. Use a lot of tar remover during the winter months. And have a petroleum based tar remover in a pump pressure spray bottle for solvents. Don`t rinse them out and have always products in it. Have had my Epoca now for 2years and works as new. And it`s their cheaper one which is a little hassle since it`s not any easy pressure release valve on it. But just when used at the end is to hold it upside down and spray out the air pressure and put the bottle away. Much easier with the others I have that has the pressure release valve on them. The Epoca one is half of the price of a Kwazar Black pump pressure spray bottle that I would have gotten if going with the Kwazar.
MattPersman
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I just have a megs wheelbright bottle with a gold tolco spray head on it. Been fine for years I don’t clean it either
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