Help with Hollograms! They're everywhere, what a nightmare!!

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335iPty

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I had my car get serviced for a machine glaze and wax because of a lot of water spots it had. I also wanted a little more shine. After around a week and a half I started noticing that there has been a lot of hollograms from the machine where it rotated on, which is basically all of the car.The wax covered it for a few days maybe a week or two, but now when the car is in the sun, my car looks awful it's really deppressing. It's a black car. What should I do to take the holograms out?? Any of the polish guru's that cou;d help me?



Please let me know the steps to take to make my car back to normal!! Please, and if so the list of products I need to buy!!



Where can I buy a kit which would include everything for a full polish, for every kind of scratches, swirls, holograms, contamination, to revive the paint everything. I just want to buy a kit that would include everything, so I don't have to buy anything else. Also another kit, which would include the machine and all the pads for all the applications?



Thanks Guys!
 
Looks like you've received the Hack and Swirl Special.



Where are you located? Maybe a pro autopian could be near by.
 
Oh......





Your paint has been marred by (most likely) a wool pad on a rotary polisher. They wont go away with a filler wax or glaze, only just covered. You already experienced this.



Have you considered learning how to use a Random Orbital polisher?
 
wicho661 said:
Oh......





Your paint has been marred by (most likely) a wool pad on a rotary polisher. They wont go away with a filler wax or glaze, only just covered. You already experienced this.



Have you considered learning how to use a Random Orbital polisher?
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Yes, he used a wool pad and a rotary polisher. I haven't considered it before, but now I'm willing to learn now.
 
Hey i really need help can you help me I have the same problem with a civic si I just bought 2 months ago and took it to some detail shop to make it shine and after wax wares off Im left with hollograms in direct sunlight looks very bad. I have taken the car back to the detail shop about 6 times and still after about a week when the was wares off here comes the hollograms. I hate this so much. can you find a way to help me fix this problem.
 
heyitsmarissa said:
Hey i really need help can you help me I have the same problem with a civic si I just bought 2 months ago and took it to some detail shop to make it shine and after wax wares off Im left with hollograms in direct sunlight looks very bad. I have taken the car back to the detail shop about 6 times and still after about a week when the was wares off here comes the hollograms. I hate this so much. can you find a way to help me fix this problem.
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where are you located? maybe a fellow Autopian can help out...
 
heyitsmarissa said:
Hey i really need help can you help me I have the same problem with a civic si I just bought 2 months ago and took it to some detail shop to make it shine and after wax wares off Im left with hollograms in direct sunlight looks very bad. I have taken the car back to the detail shop about 6 times and still after about a week when the was wares off here comes the hollograms. I hate this so much. can you find a way to help me fix this problem.
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Yea, it's called a new detailer
 
imo the cyclo is the safest and user friendly pollisher on the market it will remove swirls light scratches and finish great no vibrations like pc or flex. I have a dewalt high speed,pc/flex3401 and a cyclo.I find my self going back to the cyclo more and more. optimum polish, blue 4 inch hydro pad for swirls orange 4 inch hydro pad for final finish. then wax that easy
 
sparklescarwash said:
imo the cyclo is the safest and user friendly pollisher on the market it will remove swirls light scratches and finish great no vibrations like pc or flex. I have a dewalt high speed,pc/flex3401 and a cyclo.I find my self going back to the cyclo more and more. optimum polish, blue 4 inch hydro pad for swirls orange 4 inch hydro pad for final finish. then wax that easy
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i like the flex best for newbs, i cant see detailing with that blender looking thing LOL
 
Got_Leather said:
Yea, it's called a new detailer
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couldn't have said it better. Get a refund. The more you take it back to them the more they are probably taking a wool pad to it shaving off your precious clear.



Refund is in order and then take it to a fellow autopian to get it done right.
 
Some sorta-random thoughts follow:



Almost always, holograms are just another form of light scratches...like "swirlmarks" (back in the day that's what "swirlmarks" usually meant). Yeah...abrade them away with a random orbital polisher. Most people can DIY this pretty well, just time-consuming.



While I absolutely *LOVE* using my Cyclos (hands-down my favorite polishers ever, and they last for decades), on hard paint I'd recommend a Flex 3401 instead. And the Griot's 6" has its place too.



Also, there are certain vehicles where the panel contours just don't accomodate the design of the Cyclo (that's the primary reason I started buying other polishers).



So..."which polisher for me?" sorta depends on "what vehicle(s) will you be working on?" ;)



All that said, unless you're looking for a new hobby, finding a *GOOD* detailer to do this for you has a lot going for it.
 
vtec92civic said:
couldn't have said it better. Get a refund. The more you take it back to them the more they are probably taking a wool pad to it shaving off your precious clear.



Refund is in order and then take it to a fellow autopian to get it done right.
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Don't get a refund. You should get what you pay for in this world. You take it to a shop to get a $140.00 clay/buff/wax, you're going to get holograms all over it after the glaze and wax wears off. I can't believe people are suggesting that the shop should provide a $500.00 minimum paint correction service for $140.00.



Here's a proper suggestion - pay a paint correction specialist to come to your house to provide a proper paint correction service, and then pay the $300-$600 to get it done. Or, you can spend the necessary $700 to properly equip yourself and spend the months it takes learning to use the right equipment to get the paint finish you're looking for.



Refund....LOL.
 
Stealth said:
Don't get a refund. You should get what you pay for in this world. You take it to a shop to get a $140.00 clay/buff/wax, you're going to get holograms all over it after the glaze and wax wears off. I can't believe people are suggesting that the shop should provide a $500.00 minimum paint correction service for $140.00.

Here's a proper suggestion - pay a paint correction specialist to come to your house to provide a proper paint correction service, and then pay the $300-$600 to get it done. Or, you can spend the necessary $700 to properly equip yourself and spend the months it takes learning to use the right equipment to get the paint finish you're looking for.



Refund....LOL.
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Well, I don't think anyone said that... It's not the proper use of a glaze to apply it with a wool pad. He paid for a glaze, which should have been applied with a glazing pad. I don't think he will get a refund, but I agree with anyone saying he is owed one.



I'ts also not going to cost $700 in equipment or "months" of work to correct the problem. He could probably do everything he needs with a $150 buffer, $50 in pads/backing plates, and one good finishing polish, like PO106. That's waht, maybe $250? I agree that a good professional could do the work better, but I presume he thought the first guy was good, too.
 
I just had the same problem with a body shop. Black car hit two deer. Paint job was actually fine (lifetime guarantee if need be), but a few days later after the glaze wore off - holograms from a rotary.



Shop offered to fix, but don't trust them. They gave me $150 towards a pro, but after a few years on this forum, decided to give it a go myself. Bought a PC, used a white pad with M205 (holograms are very light swirls) and it looks perfect. Did not take long either. Why the body shop could not have done this is beyond me. They will never get a referral from me. It's bad for business and they could have solved this with an extra 45 minutes with a PC and white pad.



Topped with DWG (original formula) with a black pad at 3 and then UPGP with a MF applicator. Car looks awesome.



To the OP, you can do this yourself. Just order up a PC kit (or similar orbital) from one of the many places online. Read up here on how to do it and watch YouTube's on the use of a PC.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
A body shop once told me, "we paint cars, but buffing is not our thing." As far as Im concerned, that goes for every body shop out there.
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Yep! :xyxthumbs



Though I'm sure there are a select few capable of finishing off a car the right way....I've just never seen one!
 
wfedwar said:
Well, I don't think anyone said that... It's not the proper use of a glaze to apply it with a wool pad. He paid for a glaze, which should have been applied with a glazing pad. I don't think he will get a refund, but I agree with anyone saying he is owed one.



It's also not going to cost $700 in equipment or "months" of work to correct the problem. He could probably do everything he needs with a $150 buffer, $50 in pads/backing plates, and one good finishing polish, like PO106. That's what, maybe $250? I agree that a good professional could do the work better, but I presume he thought the first guy was good, too.
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The glaze was not applied with a wool pad. The holograms came from the compound + wool pad combination, followed by a glaze and finish pad to cover it up. The glaze was applied correctly, which is why the car looked decent on delivery...but like every express detail shop, all those compound marks are coming back in 1 to 2 weeks. He's not owed a refund unless he paid more than $250.00 on exterior "paint correction".



It takes more than just PO106 to correct rotary buffing marks from an express detail shop. Figure a compound, good polish, then your finish polishes, then your waxes, then your rotary, PC, backing plates, halogens, microfibers, wash supplies, pads, pressure washer, and the time invested to learn - I know I've spent well over $700.00 to get what I need to get a perfect finish on a car after a customer took it to an express shop for their express buff service. Getting supplied up is expensive.



For $140.00, I'd do the same service: wash, clay, compound, glaze, wax...and think nothing bad about it. Will it look like crap later on? Yes. Will I enjoy putting my name on that kind of service? No. But for $140.00 no one is getting any decent or real paint correction. And no one is deserved a refund for that job either.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
A body shop once told me, "we paint cars, but buffing is not our thing." As far as Im concerned, that goes for every body shop out there.
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RaskyR1 said:
Yep!



Though I'm sure there are a select few capable of finishing off a car the right way....I've just never seen one!
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My "good" painter is quite skilled with his rotary buffers, and I have zero problems letting him use them on my vehicles. While he admits he doesn't get things quite to my standards, he doesn't hack 'em up by a long shot.



Just posting this to give credit where credit is due.
 
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