Help Cleaning Dirty Microfiber Wash Media After using ONR

Setec -

Dare I google for the Ago thread or shall u link it.
I`d be curious on the read.

I did debunk the theory on drying MF, and for whatever reason, they do come out softer and fluffier from the dryer vs. line dried.
I`ve tried outdoors line drying and indoors line drying. Dry-er works best
 
mobiledynamics said:
Setec -

Dare I google for the Ago thread or shall u link it.
I`d be curious on the read.
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I have no idea how to find that thread, or I would have done my mea culpa there.

EDIT: I think this is it, there may have been multiple threads: https://www.autogeekonline.net/foru...leen-instruction-thread-4.html?highlight=boil

I do have to qualify my results a little--I can`t be 100% sure the towel I saw the big difference with had actually been washed before--so it`s possible it`s a bad towel, although there was that other one that didn`t feel quite right either (different towel type). It`s possible the sanitize cycle got way hotter than 131F for a lot longer than 3 minutes (that`s the NSF requirement)--this washer does have a "steam" capability.
 
mobiledynamics said:
OT. Do you GUYS uses any sort of fabric softener in your front loader....
Like downey, which literally is fat..
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We use Ultra Downy in all our washers (but of course not when laundering MFs or textiles where it could cause issues).

Ultra Downy is the only such product that hasn`t compromised the absorbency of our cotton towels, or at least not enough to be an issue.

I know that the conventional wisdom is that Fabric Softeners are the devil, but if we don`t use that stuff our cotton textiles turn out so still and rough that we can`t touch our skin with them. Yeah..really, even though we have double-filtered/softened water and we rinse until there`s zero detergent residue. I can`t explain it, but it`s obvious.

And no, zero problems with residual softener contaminating our MFs, maybe I keep the insides of the washers cleaner than I thought! The last time we had one apart it was surprisingly clean, or at least the service guy was pretty surprised.
 
Heat from anything washer/dryer related shouldn`t damage MFs unless the appliance has serious issues. Boiling MFs doesn`t hurt them (and is sometimes recommended by the manufacturers) and nothing, including the Sanitize Cycle, should get hotter than that unless there`s a problem.
 
Accumulator said:
Heat from anything washer/dryer related shouldn`t damage MFs unless the appliance has serious issues. Boiling MFs doesn`t hurt them (and is sometimes recommended by the manufacturers) and nothing, including the Sanitize Cycle, should get hotter than that unless there`s a problem.
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I agree, I just can`t explain what happened to me, unless it`s my imagination and coincidence. I suppose it`s also possible that some of these towel permutations are using different materials that are more heat-sensitive than traditional MF`s...which would explain this TRC noise about 140°F.
 
Setec Astronomy- I posted my latest "..shouldn`t hurt.." without having noticed/read about your experience with your washer`s Sanitary Cycle.

I`ll give you enough credit to assume your observations/conclusions are valid ;) All we can report is what we experience, and I guess we need to keep adding those !YMMV! disclaimers. The TRC MFs I`ve laundered that way came out fine, so did the Dry Me Crazy MF Drying Towels, which I`d assume are likely to be a bit sensitive to damage. Eh, I couldn`t count the number of times I`ve laundered my MFs on Sanitary without issues, but that sure doesn`t negate your experience!

I will say that when some manufacturer says to pamper their product beyond what I consider reasonable, I figure it`s just a CYA tactic (my wife has Dickies work clothes..really sturdy cotton fabrics, old-time tough stuff...that now say to wash on Cold Delicate!) rather than a "well, they oughta know" type of certainty.

And of course, heh heh...I recognized the now-MIA Autopians you referenced :D

Now when I tell people what, IMO oughta be OK, I`d better qualify it with some more emphatic caveats.
 
This is what I learned about cleaning microfiber vehicle wash media used with ONR is:
1) Pre-soak with Optimum Power Clean
2) Wash them in the washer
3) Use hot water, but not the sanitize cycle
4) Use Oxy-Clean with your detergent (I am currently using Persil per Accumulator`s suggestion/admonition) WITHOUT fabric softeners or bleach (common sense)
4a) Add the vinegar (one cup or 8 fluid ounces for a medium load) in the washer rinse cycle to act as a softener, which is why someone above suggested doing the optional second rinse cycle.
5) Dry them in the dryer on lower heat WITHOUT dryer sheets (more Common sense)
6) Discard when they look dingy or do not feel soft anymore
 
I dont use ONR and use a bunch of other rinseless washes. I usually will rinse and wring them in regular water. Then I soak then in a bucket full of hot water and oxiclean powder (I pour some hot water and oxiclean, mix it up so its fully dissolved.) I will let it soak 8 to 24 hours and then rinse and wash them and then put them in a commercial washer 😁.

I don`t washer in my home washer anymore because I hate cleaning the washer after to ensure no chemicals remain.
 
The Persil works a lot better on my household MFs than it does on my Detailing ones, but when it does work it`s a great savings over a MF Detergent.

If I were to soak them in OPC and use OxiClean like Lonnie I bet it`d work a lot better on the Detailing ones.

When I use vinegar in the rinse I usually have to do another rinse to get it all out (as per sniff-test).
 
Speaking of laundry detergents; what ever happen to Charlie`s Liquid Laundry Soaps??
That was one of the "flavors of the month" in this forum some time back (10 years?) as a soap cleaner for microfibers. The problem was that it worked so good, IF you did not follow the initial use instructions to wash a load of throw-away rags or towels, your microfibers would become "dirtied" by the loosened wash tub gunk that is pictured in some of these photos posted in this thread.
 
I stopped using Charlie’s because it didn’t get my clothes, let alone my MFs,particularly clean. I now use Tide exclusively which does the job for me.
 
I find my mf, even the nastiest ones, come clean since switching from all free and clear to a dedicated mf detergent. I’ve used poor boys and now 3D towel kleen and they all come clean. I have a front loading HE washer for reference. I do the hottest water setting and an extra rinse, dry on low in the dryer. It works for me.
 
PearTree said:
I find my mf, even the nastiest ones, come clean since switching from all free and clear to a dedicated mf detergent. I’ve used poor boys and now 3D towel kleen and they all come clean. I have a front loading HE washer for reference. I do the hottest water setting and an extra rinse, dry on low in the dryer. It works for me.
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I find the 3d towel Kleen foams a lot in my HE front loader. Maybe I`m using too much, but last time I used it my HE started throwing "too much foam error codes" and stopped running.


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RaydiantDetail said:
I find the 3d towel Kleen foams a lot in my HE front loader. Maybe I`m using too much, but last time I used it my HE started throwing "too much foam error codes" and stopped running.


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My first time using it I had about 15 16x16 towels and put in 2 ounces of soap. The directions say don’t use more than 2 ounces in a load and I had a lot of sudsing and had to do multiple rinses. I backed it down to one ounce and I don’t have the sudsing problem anymore and the towels come clean as well as rinse clean. The only time I’ve used 2 ounces of towel kleen after the first time was when I had almost 50 towels in one load. That time no sudsing either. Ymmv of course
 
FWIW, I suspect most people use excess detergent most of the time. I was surprised how little it really takes to get stuff clean, even Detailing stuff (as long as you pretreat anything nasty).
 
PearTree said:
My first time using it I had about 15 16x16 towels and put in 2 ounces of soap. The directions say don’t use more than 2 ounces in a load and I had a lot of sudsing and had to do multiple rinses. I backed it down to one ounce and I don’t have the sudsing problem anymore and the towels come clean as well as rinse clean. The only time I’ve used 2 ounces of towel kleen after the first time was when I had almost 50 towels in one load. That time no sudsing either. Ymmv of course
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I imagine I went too crazy on the amount.
Definitely user error on my part. I`ll try again with just 1oz and see how it does because i do agree it does work well after the sudsing and I still have a full jug of it.


Accumulator- I have cut down on my use but I was guilty of using too much as well. Hence the extreme sudsing in my machine lol

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