Help a total newbie!!

Elonheater32

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I have previously owned 2 black cars and this was before I discovered this website. Regardless to say.... I could get them clean easy, but that only brought out the marring and swirl marks. I vowed never to get another black car. But now that I have found this website, I am confident that I can make a black car beautiful and swirl free!!!



My question was would it be a bad idea for a total newbie to start using a porter cable buffer? I have only polished and waxed by hand and have no expereince with porter cable buffers.



I plan on getting a black Cadillac CTS and realize that the only way I can get rid of swirl marks is not to do it by hand. I would also like to use good products such as Zanio!!



Does anyone have recommendations for me? Should a newbie aviod using mechanical buffers on cars...espeically black cars. It would break my heart if I messed up the paint (burning the paint or putting holograms on the paint)
 
:welcome ! i would definitely look into purchasing a PC/UDM, it will outperform your hands and give you better consistent results more than your hands ever will. it's pretty safe too...



http://autopia.org/forum/ultimate-detailing-machine/88388-ultimate-detailing-machine-project.html



Car Polisher, Auto Buffer - The Ultimate Detailing Machine



if you haven't seen these videos, check them out... Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher - dual action orbital car polisher, car care kits, buffer kits, PC 7424, porter cable detailing machine
 
Thanks BigAl3 for the welcome!!! Do you have to have a lot of experience with the UDM or porter cable buffer before you get excellent results? I was just wondering if I would need a lot of practice before I could really make my black car shine.
 
the more you use it, the better your technique and skill. there are some guys on here that get such amazing results with it, they really don't have to use a rotary. three members of the top of my head that do amazing work via PC are 1CleanWS6, blkyukon, and Scottwax. check out their threads! :2thumbs:
 
Elonheater32- Welcome to Autopia!



You'll do fine with the polisher, they're not hard to get the hang of. You won't instill holograms with the PC/UDM and you might even find it enjoyable to use.



For newbies, I *always* recommend 1Z brand polishes topped with Collinite brand wax (sources: Welcome to Exceldetail! or Aloha & Welcome to Our Oasis for All Your Auto Detailing Supplies & Accessories ). The Collinite's durability will rival that of sealants, and the 1Z/Collinite combo is very user-friendly. I really can't say enough about the 1Z polish, and I have a *lot* of polishes on the shelf that I can compare it to...for ease-of-use, foolproof nature, etc. it's really something.



FWIW, keeping a black vehicle good enough for a sealant would be *very* tough, at least for somebody just getting started in serious detailing; sealants allow every little flaw to show. I'm pretty good at this stuff, and I only use sealants on two of our vehicles (and no, not the black one ;) ).
 
Accumulator said:
FWIW, keeping a black vehicle good enough for a sealant would be *very* tough, at least for somebody just getting started in serious detailing; sealants allow every little flaw to show. I'm pretty good at this stuff, and I only use sealants on two of our vehicles (and no, not the black one ;) ).



Completely agree! :werd:
 
Do it!!! Just do it!!! I cannot believe the enjoyment I've found from having a rotary.

















And it polishes good too:getdown .



Seriously, I was very hesitant at first too. But believe me you will be stunned and amazed at what a PC can do for your car. There really isn't any reason to be concerned about the PC learning curve. It's actually quite enjoyable.
 
You really have to try to do damage with a PC, and it's far more effective than doing it by hand! As a noob I've found that I didn't get all the swirls out the first time, but with each successive polish my cars looked better. That's because I only buy used cars. Eventually you'll want to step up to a rotary but for now a PC is the way to go!
 
Thanks guys! I have been doing a bit research and I think I will be purchasing a UDM in the very near future. I am now just learning what sealants are, what brands are good, etc. As of right now, I have Zanio as the product I want to try out first.
 
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