HBH 10sec. 93 Mustang Cobra

Todd, it also has to do with pad speed, pressure and time in a certain area. This is going to be hard to explain on the heat issue I believe contributes to the gloss factor. I will be more than happy to try and explain it in words and you can write it in yours. It is a finese type feeling with the rotary. I can not put it in words. The best way to describe it I guess it is the combination of all three above but in a flow motion if you can understand that. Putting that much pressure on a pc is going to have adverse effects to it, it just wasn't made for alot of pressure on it. As far as better tools than Makita, DeWalt and
Dynabrade for two. I have two Black and Deckers that are now Dewalts that are over 20 years old and have been put through the ringer, from wet sanding 100's of cars to our details. The only thing that has broke is the cord. You have a point about using the pc for 25 years but it is only going to do so much, that is just plain and simple. like I said I was not trying to down you and I would agree your researching is awesome, no denying that. I would also agree just because someone has x amount of years doesn't make him better but my work speaks for itself and I was not trying to take anything away from you because you have achieved some great things from your skills but nothing can replace experience from someone that has honed their skill. You have more than helped people and no one can take that away from you and I am sure alot of people have benefited from it, even if your pics are cropped.:devil: I am sure weather has alot to do with it, so when Eric can come up here when I am not so busy he can compare the differences in polishing from the two states. I have no problem going a little off topic on my thread as long as it is kept to this level of discussion and also it was fun like I said above doing this with someone that has a head on their shoulders
 
Excellent gloss on that beauty Dana. The paint is sizzling! :D No engine pics? Slacker!

Thanks Eric, It is just your typical S-trim Vortech, gt-40x heads, and Hermann's custom blower cam and you can't see that. It is the most important to why it goes 10's with those heads, besides his incredible tuning skills.
 
This is the thread I'm referring to. Just insane.

Because you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. The problem is you do not know what we have talked about behind the scences. This the problem with posting on the forums, it can be taken so many different ways. Once again I am entitled to my opinion and have been working with tools all my life and have a wood wroking shop also so I know what tool does what and what it's limitations are.
 
No need to get defensive, I'm just pointing out a thread. Everyone can read and decide for themselves. It's that simple.

Not being defensive, see there is my point, you are taking it oneway and I am not being that way at all. They sure can, but it basically comes down to a popularity contest not on how the actual tool in question is suppose to be used. If you really want to be honest with yourself that is why people are so defensive about what I am saying. Now if Todd or Kevin were me, and disagreed with with the tool being mis-used I bet you alot of people would agree with them also.
 
Listen, I don't care to take this any farther with you man but I still don't think you're understanding me (and probably gmblack as well). Everyone has opinions, you know how the saying goes, but I took a small sample of some of the things you wrote in this thread and you tell me if you think everything you wrote was fine. I've got nothing further to say on the topic

Your quotes:

Yes, it is the new and improved way to polish and without abusing your equipment.

This is being more than opinionated.

I will tell you this though, no equipment is misused or abused to achieve proper results.

Ditto.

Agreed, but I already gave you a little tease from the pics and no abusing equipment.

Arrogant, no?

but promoting mis-use of a tool to me is wrong.

This one is downright nasty. Here you are accusing him of wrong doing. When did we exit the realm of detailing and enter the world of wrong doing?

I have been using a rotary for 25 years and you only have a few years under your belt so that could be the difference in the results with the rotary, not that yours are sub-par, they are great but there is always that extra little bit.

This last one was said to Todd, a guy I imagine many think is about as good as it gets in the detailing world and you're using your 25 years of experience as though it automatically makes you better. That is NOT an opinion, that is arrogance.

Let me put it to you another way... this year in the Stanley Cup Final Detroit played Pittsburgh. Detroit had Chris Chelios on their team. A 48 year old with all the experience you could ever want. Pittsburgh had a bunch of young kids (Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury etc...). Are we all to assume that Chelios was best because he's been in the league for 29 years?

Food for thought. I'm out.
 
First off the really funny part is I am a Pittsburgh fan.

The is a difference in being arrogant and stating a fact it is all in how you take and it is obvious you are taking it to heart. As far as my last statement, you have re-enforced my other comment by saying this is a popularity contest. He is much more well know than I on the forums so I guess he is better. Now you see where I am coming from. Also so you know we were having fun ribbing each other.

You are correct in this is detailing but using a tool incorrectly is still using a tool incorrectly in any type of work. You are just as guilty as you claim I was acting on AG by you trying to stir something up. Just relax, what is said between Todd and I is just that, between us. If he thought I was being malicous in anyway I am sure he would have said something. SO until you truely know what was going on between both us on here and behind the scences there is no point in you commenting.
 
I have been watching the posts go back and forth on this and I would just like to bring up part of our mission statement....."this is not a place for drama."

Why don't we all just let this topic come to a close and move on?

If those of you involved in this lively discussion would like to continue it, could you please do so via PM?

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