Has anyone used Xzilon Molecular Adhession by Granitize?

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Mr. Lexus123...

End of January, 2005, we bought a 2005 Jeep Liberty. Paid for the Xzilon superduper protectant (internal and external) and were told it was applied. We even received a 'Warranty' to supplement the guarantees that the salesman made to us.

This past weekend I turned the hose on the car and water no longer beaded on the surface. This surprised me since we were promised we would never have to reapply wax, or at least for 5 years. So I took a little drive to the dealer to see if they could tell me why water no longer beaded on my $400 superduper Zxilon-treated vehicle.

Low and behold, no body can remember making the "bead up for life" promise. I guess me and my wife were in la-la land and just wanted to give them the $400 for the fun of it (the actual purchase of Zxilon does not show up on the invoice as a separate line item, rather they added the $400 on the price of the vehicle so in reality there is no record of me buying the Zxilon superduper protectant).

I was told that I should purchase, separately, the Zxilon car wash so that I could continue with the same high level of protection that we invested in when we first bought the car. This, obviously, has me perplexed...

1. Is this normal that the initial application of Zxilon will last less than 3 months?

2. I don't have the Warranty in front of me, but does it say anything in there about having to use their car wash product in order to maintain a nice finish, or even for the warranty to hold up.

3. Do you think that I received a defective application of Zxilon superduper clearcoat since it didn't last 5 years? If so, should I take it back to the dealer or can I bring it to one for your dealerships for a complimentary application?

4. In an earlier posting I mentioned that I could not detect that the interior had been treated (even put my nose right up on the seat and took a couple really big sniffs). Since you've been around the horn a number of times with this stuff, in your opinion should I have been able to smell the protectant right after they applied it? If so, do you think I ought to go back and ask for a reapplication?

Sorry for rambling on about this. Please understand that I am a little critical about this experience since my expectations, seemingly, were not appropriately set. Since you are in the business you apparently have better insight into this product, so I would like your opinion on what I should do at this point. I'm not blaming the car dealership for charging whatever they can get from us poor consumers, rather I am concerned that I did not get stuff applied at all.

Thanks-
Docker
 
OK, To the last person that posted.
1. The dealership is to blame for this issue not the product, I would seriously doubt they put it on in the first place.

2. In the initial testing of this product 32 companies tried to build products for Boeing and the Aero field. Thee was a test that had to be completed of 20 variables, and if even one failed the product was denied. Granitize was the only company to meet and exceed these requirements. This product isn't just a boeing show. It is used on All Airforce Ones and has the presidential seal for use. Also is used by Southwest Airlines, Roy Disney, and many other major companies in the US and abroad.

3. Please send me the name of the dealership and I will have it investigated, I represent this company as a agent, and have field tested this product for a extended period of time before we would rep the product. This product works and stands up to all kinds of test including but not exclusive to salt, heat, cold, water, etc. This product has only been around for 5 years.

4. If this product is not put on correctly it will not protect the vehicle. It isn't hard to put on but it has to be put on in a certain way. Anyone who can followsteps can do it but again they have to follow the steps and pay attention to what they are doing.

Now you can take from this what you want, you don't know me, but I don't want to lay down and let some people who know nothing about a excellent prduct run it a ground, or let the product take the fall for assured irresponsibility on a dealerships part to apply or mislead the customers into believing their vehicles are covered by Xzilon.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance to you.

nnewell201
 
if, like u said the product has been around for only 5 years. how do u even know that the product will even last 5 years and then some. this really seems stupid to me for some reason. if someone finds something to apply to a car that lasts 5 years i will buy it and apply it myself and show everyone here on DC. this is just getting rediculous. thats like rustproofing the chassis. yea ok that really works too doesnt it? the only thing that works is rubberizing.
 
nnewell201 said:
4. If this product is not put on correctly it will not protect the vehicle. It isn't hard to put on but it has to be put on in a certain way. Anyone who can followsteps can do it but again they have to follow the steps and pay attention to what they are doing.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance to you.

nnewell201
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Sure - Exactly what's the special process involved in application? Is there any prep work done, such as removing IFO or polishing out any paint defects prior to application? Is it a "one-step" application of the actual sealant? I don't exactly see how "just applying" it wrong would make it not last longer than a month. I still don't buy into this, as it is purely a dealer profit factor, but I am interested in the application process. Of course, if that's not a secret you can divulge, I would understand. Thanks. <------ My bad, I see that you were replying to the question about interior protectant. Still, I would like to know the answers to the above questions anyway f at all possible.

Edit: I'm not knocking the product as much as the claims some of the dealers/promoters of it make. I have never used it, but c'mon.....nothing will last for "5 years without reapplying anything - EVER!" I've seen clearcoats not last that long, and that's paint - this stuff is a very minute, sacrificial barrier applied on top of the paint. For all I know, it could be a very good product, just very poorly marketed.
 
nnewell201,

So we are clear, and can take the information you have provided in more than simply a subjective manner, what is your affiliation with the Granitize organization? I don't mean to discount what you have said, but would simply like to know. Thank you.

Travis
 
JaredPointer said:
Sure - Exactly what's the special process involved in application? Is there any prep work done, such as removing IFO or polishing out any paint defects prior to application? Is it a "one-step" application of the actual sealant? I don't exactly see how "just applying" it wrong would make it not last longer than a month. I still don't buy into this, as it is purely a dealer profit factor, but I am interested in the application process. Of course, if that's not a secret you can divulge, I would understand. Thanks. <------ My bad, I see that you were replying to the question about interior protectant. Still, I would like to know the answers to the above questions anyway f at all possible.

Edit: I'm not knocking the product as much as the claims some of the dealers/promoters of it make. I have never used it, but c'mon.....nothing will last for "5 years without reapplying anything - EVER!" I've seen clearcoats not last that long, and that's paint - this stuff is a very minute, sacrificial barrier applied on top of the paint. For all I know, it could be a very good product, just very poorly marketed.
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Even if it did last 5 years, you're still going to get swirls/scratches REGARDLESS of what product is on the vehicle. Why would I pay $400-500 to have something only applied by hand once, when I can pay $100 and have my exterior polished to perfection once a year for 5 years?
 
This product has only been around for 5 years.
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I have had my vehicle treated with the Xzilon for 7 years now and I love it! I spilled a cup of lemonade on my floor the other day and it still beads up the first day it was applied! The warranty is for 5 years on new and used cars, not 5 and 3 years, respectively.
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THE ULTIMATE AUTO PROTECTION
Filters harmful ultraviolet rays
Reduces frequency of car washing
Reduces brake dust on wheels
5 year coverage on new vehicles
3 year coverage on used vehicles

Someone is not being completely honest here.
 
shotime said:
Even if it did last 5 years, you're still going to get swirls/scratches REGARDLESS of what product is on the vehicle. Why would I pay $400-500 to have something only applied by hand once, when I can pay $100 and have my exterior polished to perfection once a year for 5 years?
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I just want to hear the rationale behind the support of something like this is all. I don't believe in these types of "protection," nor would I ever spend the money for it. Just curious is all I guess.
 
Even if the stuff don't laast five years or add tons of molecular sparkling luster yada yada yada....It is still going to do something to protect your paint. Maybe longer than the cheap wax maybe worse than Mothers but it still will provide protection for an undetermined amount of time. I bought some of the xzilon on ebay for 30 bucks. You'll pay 15 or so for a good wax so who cares?You are still protecting the paint. All this crying and finger pointing, you guys sound like a couple women in the darn hair salon talking about which shampoo is better!!! NUFF SAID!!!!
 
incider said:
Even if the stuff don't laast five years or add tons of molecular sparkling luster yada yada yada....It is still going to do something to protect your paint. Maybe longer than the cheap wax maybe worse than Mothers but it still will provide protection for an undetermined amount of time. I bought some of the xzilon on ebay for 30 bucks. You'll pay 15 or so for a good wax so who cares?You are still protecting the paint. All this crying and finger pointing, you guys sound like a couple women in the damn hair salon talking about which shampoo is better you xxxS!!! NUFF SAID!!!!
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I'm glad to hear that you spent $30. The original poster was going to pay $800... 2 years ago.
We look forward to your review of the product.

BTW welcome to DetailCity, thank you for introducing yourself

"J"
 
I do these all the time at the dealership i work at. Its just called permaplate instead but same thing. Our dealership warrantys it for "lifetime" which is the dumbest iv ever heard and it cost between $1200 and $1500 to have it done
We've already had a few people do a couple scams but we have to back it up.
This lady bought a used car had the permaplate done.the interior was perfect except for one lil mark on the drivers seat that wouldnt come out. She kept complaing about it.
So 2 days later the lady comes back and there is coolaid all over the seat. Well we couldnt get it out duh, so she got a brand new seat.
My opinion i wouldnt pay the extra for it. The exterior part is just a sealant. The interior is just a dressing on the plastic and the carpet stuff is basically scotch gaurd,will last maybe a month but only with certain things. If you spill coolaid, its staying there. Also you have to reapply it every 3 to 6 months for the warranty, which no one ever does. Just another way to suck some more money out of your pocket. At the shop we call it the "$1500 wax job".
Hope this helps you out at lil. Have any ?'s, just ask.
 
incider said:
Even if the stuff don't laast five years or add tons of molecular sparkling luster yada yada yada....It is still going to do something to protect your paint. Maybe longer than the cheap wax maybe worse than Mothers but it still will provide protection for an undetermined amount of time. I bought some of the xzilon on ebay for 30 bucks. You'll pay 15 or so for a good wax so who cares?You are still protecting the paint. All this crying and finger pointing, you guys sound like a couple women in the darn hair salon talking about which shampoo is better!!! NUFF SAID!!!!
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Timely post.......
 
This thread died from lack of interest some time back.
It seems like that same fate would be an ideal solution again.
Keep in mind that it takes more than one poster for a discussion/argument to continue.

Charles
 
iam quite familiar with the product. i detail at a dealership where we have to apply the product to the outside of EVERY new car. if you ask me its WAY overpriced.. its soo easy to do yourself and from what i know half of the dealerships just do the hood of your car anyway to get it done faster.. i wouldn't payu the $800.. dont get me wrong when finished it looks great and lasts a while.. but its not worth that ammount of money when you can just buy a bottle for $90 if interested i have many exterior bottles and also interior!!!!
 
rabbi said:
Thank God he's no longer here I was getting ready to pull out my cc.:passout:
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Wait! Wait!
I can help you.
How many did you want?
Exterior or interior?
Shipping is included in the $90 price. :D

But wait, theres' more!!!!!!
I don't know just what, but if I get your CC number, you can bet I'll find something. :)

Charles
Man, it's gonna be a long winter.
Full of bad jokes, too.
 
Okay so I have used xzilon on my 2004 Trailblazer and when I just traded it in it looked great. I live in Florida and the vehicle was never garaged. Xzilon is used by boeing on their jets when they are detailed after painting. If a jet can do 500+MPH and suffer no damage that was the selling point for me. I used it and recommend this product highly. I will order another bottle of it for my new vehicle and put it on every inch right away. Re-apply after 6 months (because I am OC) and will never have to put it on again. I will use turtle wax Ice the rest of the time and my car will look show room new forever I have no doubt. I also use this on my Harley, Cleaning it is easy after application as well.
 
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