Has any used Meguiar's Deep Crustal System and PC-7424

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Hi guys,



Has anyone of you used the Meguiar's Deep Crystal System with PC-7424??



The Meguiar's Deep Crystal System contains

1)Paint Cleaner

2)Paint Polish

3)Carnauba Wax.



Meguiar's recommends to apply the above products in the above numerical sequence.



Though as i have read in the forums i see that polish is done prior to paint cleaning and of course waxing is done last.



I recently bought a PC-7424 with the Sonus Pads and i am about to use it for the first time.



Though i do not know which pads to use with each of the above products. And additionally i am not sure whether should i follow the recomendations of Meguiar's or what i have read in here.



Please give me a bit help.:)



Regards.
 
first of all GREETINGS!!



i think that you have chosen a good system to start with. have used meguiar's in the past then went on to others but now am back to meguiar's again.



i think that you should use the products in the order that meguiar's suggests.



have not used the sonus line of pads. all mine are lake counrty.

depending on the condition of your vehicle i would use a yellow lake counrty pad first. then to white and finish witheither a blue or grey pad as the last step.



yellowpads are a little more aggressive in the lake country line so depending on the condition of the paint on your vehicle it may or may not be a good thing to start with. remember if in doubt use the least aggressive pad first and if it does not work you can go back.

another thing that i will mention is to not mix products on the pads. each step should start with a new pad. also spritz some detail spray or water on to the pad prior to your start up so as to prime the pad before you start the process.



have fun with the pc. it is a wonderful tool for detailing. just use it and use your experience and this site as a way to get the best possible shine while detailing.



regards to you!!
 
Welcome to Autopia!



Yep, the Meguiar's system does work, and certainly should accomplish what you want for your first time. One recommendation I might make is to clay the car first. You'll find that it will really help the overall appearance.



I've used the Deep Crystal System, and the only complaint I had was the cleaner is not particularly aggressive (for good reason, too, since it's in the consumer line). But if your car is in reasonably good shape, you should be quite pleased with the results.
 
I have the Deep Crystal 3-step system, they are among the first car-care products I bought, years ago.



I have not used them with my PC yet, but I have used them successfully by hand.



I'll offer this bit of advice though. I did have issues with product dusting and residue. So be careful around trim and body seams. It can be a bit messy. I had trouble from applying by hand. There's potential for a lot of dusting with a PC I would think. Just something to be aware of. The Mirror Glaze professional series products are much better in this regard, I found.



As far as which pads to use, I wouldn't recommend a cutting pad. The step 1 paint cleaner is just a chemical cleaner and doesn't have a lot of bite. I'd recommend a polishing pad (Meg's yellow, or LC white, or whatever the Sonus equivalent is) for the Step 1. For the Step 2 (which is basically the same as #7 or #81, pure polish) you could use either a polishing or a finishing pad. And for the Step 3 Carnauba wax, use a finishing pad.



You won't be able to REMOVE a lot of swirls with this combo, but the Step 2 will fill in swirls and defects to a degree. The Step 1 will do a decent job of cleaning up oxidation and other surface contamination. I found when I used it on my black Z it really brightened up the paint.



The 3-step system is a good place to start. If you end up not being totally satisfied with the results (depending what shape your paint is in to begin with) then you can start looking at which products to substitute in.
 
Ok i will use them in the order Meguiar's suggests to do so. But can any one who has used the SONUS pads recommend me which pad to use for the cleaner and which for the polish.
 
although i have not used sonus pads "yet" i would use the white pad for dc 1 and 2 and the blue pad for dc 3

that just my opinion but i hope it helps
 
You could use the cleaner with the green pad, polish with the blue pad and wax with the grey pad. I have the sonus pads, that's what I would do. otherwise you could use the cleaner with the blue pad, and wash/dry the pad and use it for the polish too.



-troy
 
:welcome to Autopia globemast!



globemast said:
...Meguiar's recommends to apply the above products in the above numerical sequence.



Though as i have read in the forums i see that polish is done prior to paint cleaning and of course waxing is done last....
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Also welcome to the world of confusing naming conventions. Unfortunately no two companies name their products the same way.



Meguiar's sequence is the same as most people on the forum follow but their naming conventions are different. What they call a "cleaner" many other companies would call a "polish". What they call a "polish" some companies call a "glaze" (in the Pro line Meg's uses the terms glaze and polish interchangeably).



It's not just Meg's, what Zaino calls a "polish" just about everybody else calls a "sealant". It's a pain but you get used to it after a while.





PC.
 
Step 2 is misleading. It is more like a glaze, ie #7.



Step 3? I would get some NXT. Lasts longer, looks good.



If you have a PC order some swirl remover type of product, and some pads.



After you have your paint in decent shape, maintain with AIO and perhaps UPP or SG...my opinion-the list is huge.
 
I used the system a few years ago. I don't know if it was called deep crystal at the time. But I didn't use step one. I used the body scrub, step 2 then step 3. All by hand. My arms were going to fall off by the time I was done. I put four hours into the paint of a Ford Escort. That included the rims and tires. I didn't even touch the interior in that four hours. It looked great when I was done. It was sitting in the dark that night and my buddy said it was glowing in the dark. :up



James
 
Yep I have. I have used all of them with a Megs yellow pad and and it came out great. Kept the PC on 4 the whole time. I did clay the truck with Megs Overspray Clay. Here's an evening pic of my truck reflecting sunset from the passenger side door,,,,AR

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Welcome Globemast

I have used the Meg's DC system in the past and they are not bad products, after a while you will wind up looking for something thats gives you that little more (thats what brought me here :D )



I would use a polishing pad for steps 1 & 2 (should be the green pad...hopefully you have 2)

and for step # 3 use a finishing pad (should be the blue).

Depends on which sonus pads your using



If you don't like the results you can always move up to stronger products, but if you already the the DC system why not use it.



Good luck and have fun

"J"
 
jaybs95 said:
I would use a polishing pad for steps 1 & 2 (should be the green pad...hopefully you have 2) and for step # 3 use a finishing pad (should be the blue).

Depends on which sonus pads your using



If you don't like the results you can always move up to stronger products, but if you already the the DC system why not use it.
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I have the Sonus set and I agree with jaybs95.



Clay first, then use the three-step. Better results *can* be achieved using different products/methods, but using what you have will make your car look better than 95% of your community, and you should be extremely happy with the result.



If you want to climb the next 5%, keep following this forum. :D



BTW, as PC said above, what Megs calls a polish in often a glaze that contains nourishing oils and fillers for your paint...no abrasives.
 
I have only 1 green, 1 blue and 1 grey pad. Should i use the Stage 1 with the green, Stage 2 with the blue and finally Stage 3 with the grey?



What is your idea about waxing the car with the machine? And what about removing the wax with the machine also?



Sonus has provided me also with a MF pad for removing wax.
 
I think they grey pad is the finishing pad and use that for your LSP

the blue one should be your polishing pad (I like to keep a few of them) you could use that for your first and second step (wash out in between, it should be ok)

As for the MF pad to remove your products thats up to you, personally I prefer to do that part by hand.



heres the link to how to use the PC

that will provide you with some additional information



Good luck

"J"
 
hadboosttroy said:
You could use the cleaner with the green pad, polish with the blue pad and wax with the grey pad. I have the sonus pads, that's what I would do. otherwise you could use the cleaner with the blue pad, and wash/dry the pad and use it for the polish too.



-troy
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That's what I would do. The green pad is a little more aggressive than the blue pad and will help the pre-wax cleaner a bit more.



You can apply your wax with the grey pad and PC. What wax is it? Liquid?



I'd remove with a MF bonnet on your green pad, or by hand with a MF towel. A MF hand pad is for *applying* wax. If you use it to *remove* wax the small surface area will clog too easily.



Do you have a MF bonnet? What colour?
 
Yeah the Deep Crystal System is cheap, easy to find. Its easy to use in some ways and harder in others.



Go with what meguiars says. Also I think you have it confused with hearing it on the forums as polish / cleaner / wax. The paintwork cleansing lotion or pre-wax cleaner is just like a 3.5 step before the 4th.



Paint cleaner - basically a polish / cleaner

polish - removes swirls primes finish adds oil

pre-wax cleaner - fills swirls adds gloss preps surface , light light polish

wax / glazes - final topper



Mostly on the forums there are just certain steps that are suggested and other companies with different names that all just gets kinda confusing.
 
Artificial-I said:
Paint cleaner - basically an aggressive polish

polish - removes swirls primes finish

pre-wax cleaner - fills swirls adds gloss preps surface , light light polish

wax / glazes - final topper
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I don't mean to contradict you, but I have a different take on these products.



A *Polish* normally means a product with mechanical (abrasive) polishes that mechanically remove imperfections. Frequently, Megs calls a polish any product that creates a shine/gloss, either containing mechanical polishes or just polishing oils that fill imperfections.



A *Paint Cleaner* and *Pre-wax Cleaner* are much the same. Normally a chemical cleaner, sometimes containg a *very* mild mechanical polish.



A *Glaze* is normally a second-last step which contains no abrasives, just polishing oils/fillers to give a deep wet look, but no protection.



A *Sealant/Wax* is a last-step product that provides protection, sealing in the finish you've created with the previous steps, and adding some depth or shine, depending on product.



That's how I understand it, anyway.
 
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