I bought the 303 Fabric protector from a local auto store in the aerosol can this weekend. The chemical odor was extremely strong with this product. Does the 303 in the squirt bottle have this strong smell also? I have used the Scotchgardâ„¢ Protector for Rugs, Carpets & Autos in the blue aerosol can and it did not have nearly as strong of a smell.
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Brad B
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Yes, 303 is smellier that 3M. 
imported_nihoole
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Waxman, yes,the pump spray bottle has a very strong odor.I treated my seats with it about a week ago and the odor is almost gone.This stuff is great and does protect fabric very well.See ya
Ron Ketcham
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First 3M discontinued production of the consumer ScotchGard several months ago. What you are using is the last of it. Seems there is a component in it that is not so healthy. They did not pull it from the shelves, just letting it die a slow death.
It had other drawbacks, as it attacted soil and was hard to clean.
The 303, our brand and others that have a strong smell is due to the solvent system. This is solvent is necessary in order for the resin that is deposited on the fibers to encapsulate them.
The solvent odor goes away in an hour or so as the drying process completes.
As a supplier of this type of product to DCX and others for over 20 years, is on over 17 million vehicles, can say this without reservation, it is superior to products such as the consumer 3M product. The "mill applied" 3M product is similar to ours and 303. It is not the same as the one they marketed to consumers.
It had other drawbacks, as it attacted soil and was hard to clean.
The 303, our brand and others that have a strong smell is due to the solvent system. This is solvent is necessary in order for the resin that is deposited on the fibers to encapsulate them.
The solvent odor goes away in an hour or so as the drying process completes.
As a supplier of this type of product to DCX and others for over 20 years, is on over 17 million vehicles, can say this without reservation, it is superior to products such as the consumer 3M product. The "mill applied" 3M product is similar to ours and 303. It is not the same as the one they marketed to consumers.
They do have a new formula out. It sounds like they improved the stain release problem you were talking about. Makes me a happy continued customer.
http://cms.3m.com/wcms/view.jhtml?iFRkiFJ=0-2-78
http://cms.3m.com/wcms/view.jhtml?iFRkiFJ=0-2-78
Ron Ketcham
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3M is one big sucker and doubt that they will stay out of this market area for long, however, the announcement of the dropping of ScotchGard was made over a year ago and nothing has surfaced to date for a replacement.
I've tried Stoner's Fabric Protector, and it has what I'd classify as a medium chemical oder. Fairly strong at first, but fades quickly and is pretty much gone when the product is dried.
So far it's working as well or better than the ScotchGuard I used to use. Will let you know after winter....
blue skies,
Andy
So far it's working as well or better than the ScotchGuard I used to use. Will let you know after winter....
blue skies,
Andy
Cybercowboy
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What is the best stuff to use on fabric, in your opinion?
Ron Ketcham
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The solvent based formula has proven to best for application and longevity.
It is difficult, if not impossible, to make a statement, "This is the best", without knowing the resin used. The resin is the active that provides the protection. This must be carried to the individual fibers and coat them.
The waterbased products are not as effective in doing this. They are prone to laying the resin used for waterbased on only the top of the fabric.
The use of aerosols to apply is not as effective either, though convenient, there is reduced solvent content needed to carry the resin and encapsulate the fibers.
Guess the best way is read the label, even the aerosols, and look for a petroluem distillate content to indicate that it is the better one.
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It is difficult, if not impossible, to make a statement, "This is the best", without knowing the resin used. The resin is the active that provides the protection. This must be carried to the individual fibers and coat them.
The waterbased products are not as effective in doing this. They are prone to laying the resin used for waterbased on only the top of the fabric.
The use of aerosols to apply is not as effective either, though convenient, there is reduced solvent content needed to carry the resin and encapsulate the fibers.
Guess the best way is read the label, even the aerosols, and look for a petroluem distillate content to indicate that it is the better one.
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