Hand Polish, What's The Best?

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MBZ 500E

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Recently had a bad experience with S100 SEPC (mold) and I'm in the market for a new hand polish.



Currently my paint finish is glossy and reflective but does contain scratches and spiderwebs in the clearcoat. None of the scratches can be felt with the fingernail test so they're light. I'd like a polish which is capable of Removing the spiderwebs and reducing the light scratches by hand. It also needs to provide a high gloss finish.



I'm considering the Megs #81 hand polish, One Grand, Vanilla Moose, Menzerna Final Polish, Einzett polish and am open to other suggestions. I prefer something I can apply by hand since I don't have immediate access to a PC. Difficulty of application isn't as important as good results so don't hold back. This will be a product I'll use 3 - 4 times a year or as necessary. The product will most likely be topped with Nxt or #7/#26 and FD.



What's your experience and what would you suggest.....please be specific with your experiences.:)
 
The polish I favour is the Menzerna (FP) line because it has no fillers so your not doing a bunch of work to see what you thought was gone show up when the fillers leave.
 
I'd start with Meguiars Swirl Free Polish first since it is a bit more aggressive than a glaze and will remove minor scratches and light swirls.



After that, either Meguiars #81 Hand Polish or Vanilla Moose is what I would use.
 
I'm considering the Megs #81 hand polish, One Grand, Vanilla Moose, Menzerna Final Polish, Einzett polish and am open to other suggestions.
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I love 1Z PP for removing moderate swirls, but its aggressive in comparison to SEPC. I would suggest trying their milder Metallic Polish, but I don't have much experience with it. If MP has the same traits as PP, I'd highly recommend it... good luck!
 
If you are doing it by hand or by PC, I would suggest the 1Z PP or Metallic, both are great. Used both and really like both.



Menzerna is better if you have a rotary I hear.
 
Thank you for the feedback.



I've done a bit of research on the products suggested and I'm debating between the 1ZPP or the Megs Swirl Free. Both are designed to remove swirls by hand and prepare the surface for wax. Has anyone tried both products and can you describe the differences?



I'm considering VM or #7 as a second step and topped with Nxt. Thanks again.:up
 
SamIam said:
If you are doing it by hand or by PC, I would suggest the 1Z PP or Metallic, both are great. Used both and really like both.



Menzerna is better if you have a rotary I hear.
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What he said.



Anyway, you can't find any easier to use product than 1Z PP, either by hand, PC or rotary.



VM in the end rocks! :bow
 
Afshin,

Have you received NXT already? :nixweiss



Sam,

The Menzerna twins worked great for my vehicles with a PC ( no severe swirls or surface imperfects). I believe rotaries will do a better job with all surface preparation ( polishes) products, if done by a skilled operator. :wavey
 
BW, you mention the 1ZPP is more agressive than SEPC I assume from experience of the two products. Can you describe the differences in more detail? From my experience SEPC doesn't really remove swirls, it just fills them. It also leaves a glossy smooth finish which I really like. If the 1ZPP provides the same glossy finish and actually removes the swirls then I have a really tough decision.







The Megs swirl free that Scott suggests also removes swirls by hand and I've had great success with 85% of Megs products so I need someone to give me a reason to buy one or the other.



Has anyone had experience with One Grands Polish (can't remember the name:doh) I remember hearing good things about it but without the name I can't do a proper search.:nixweiss
 
I think you are talking about one grand omega glaze. It's real mild, kind of like 3M Imperial hand glaze. Not too many people using it any more.
 
Found the One Grand Product using Google. It's the One Grand Special Touch I was referring to, anyone have experience with that?



I found their website and it completely confused me. They state:

"ONE GRAND SPECIAL TOUCH is a highly specialized, non-abrasive cleaning polish." But in the same paragraph they also state: "SPECIAL TOUCH is excellent for removing scratches, water spots, fall out, overspray, key marks near door handles and numerous other surface impurities." How is this possible. In order to remove key marks and scratches I would imagine it would have to be abrasive. Does it have some type of chemical which softens the clearcoat?:rolleyes: Seriously anyone know if it really removes the scratches or just fills them.:nixweiss
 
MBZ 500E said:
BW, you mention the 1ZPP is more agressive than SEPC I assume from experience of the two products. Can you describe the differences in more detail? From my experience SEPC doesn't really remove swirls, it just fills them. It also leaves a glossy smooth finish which I really like. If the 1ZPP provides the same glossy finish and actually removes the swirls then I have a really tough decision.
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Their MP is more aggressive than SEPC and less aggressive than their PP. I think MP will fit your needs better than PP.



Metallic Polish (MP) is comparable to Swirl Free

Paint Polish (PP) is comparable to DACP
 
Yeah, the Menzerna FP is the ticket. No fuss/no muss (or mold!) and it's fine by hand or by PC.



BTW, ask Sandi Claus for a PC for xmas if you haven't already!
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tom p. said:
Yeah, the Menzerna FP is the ticket. No fuss/no muss (or mold!) and it's fine by hand or by PC.



BTW, ask Sandi Claus for a PC for xmas if you haven't already!
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Menzerna is not a hand polish. The abrasives in Menzerna will not break down by hand, so it really never polishes out. Menzerna needs a rotary or DA at high speed.



db
 
DavidB,



Can you give a detailed description for Einzett Metallic and Paint Polish? I'm on the fence between these products and the Meguiars Swirl Free. Honestly I was able to find more information through my searches on the Megs Swirl Free and not enough details on the Einzett. Since they're availalbe through your store I assume you've used them and can provide a good description for both. Thank you in advance.
 
Menzerna designed this polish to be applied with a dual-action (Porter Cable 7424) polisher or a circular polisher but it can be applied by hand. For best results, always work in a shaded area, out of direct sunlight.



Polishing Tips:



By Hand - Mist a Terry or Microfiber applicator pad with water or any quick-detail spray (Eagle One Wet Wipe N'Shine) and apply a Quarter size amount of polish. Work on an area of about 2 square feet. Wipe polish over the area until almost dry. Wipe off polishing residues with a damp Terry cloth or Microfiber cloth. Continue polishing in 2 square foot sections until vehicle is done
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Personally, I have not tried the Menzerna by hand but the folks at CMA suggest this technique.
 
tom p. said:
Personally, I have not tried the Menzerna by hand but the folks at CMA suggest this technique.
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I did my trunk and hood by hand this way .. with the Intensive Polish its advisable to use 50/50 alcohol/water to take it off and for inspection. It wasn't easy but was sucessful. Later I got a Simoniz Cordless Orbital and it was way easier .. now of course I have the PC ..
 
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