Griots Orbital

Accumulator where did you get the info to support your claims that the griot's polisher can't use different backing plates? From what I can tell, it looks the same as my PC. How do they attach/remove from the pc? It looks like my griots has 4 philips head screws to remove the whole backing plate, which I'm assuming can be swapped out for others... :confused:
 
Lightman said:
Accumulator where did you get the info to support your claims that the griot's polisher can't use different backing plates? From what I can tell, it looks the same as my PC. How do they attach/remove from the pc? It looks like my griots has 4 philips head screws to remove the whole backing plate, which I'm assuming can be swapped out for others... :confused:
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I called Griots and inquired about this with the thought of using the Edge 2000 system on their machine. They told me that their machine doesn't use a center post attachment. It uses several attaching screws. It won't allow you to use the normal hook and loop backing plates or the Edge system. You have to use the set up for this machine.
 
Well curiosity got the best of me, and I took the thing apart. I'll post some pics in a second. Much to my dismay, gearhead is correct. It does not use a center post attachment, so many of the popular backing plate attachments or accessories will not work with this machine. That doesn't really matter if all you plan on doing is using standard 6.5" polish/finishing pads, and the lifetime warranty is nice. However if you plan on using a different size pad, or attaching any carpet cleaning brushes etc to the unit, they will likely not work.
 
OK here it is with the pad off...definitely different. I'm not sure on the price difference because I didn't buy either polisher that I have (the pc was a gift, then the griot's was a warranty replacement), but if the prices are the same I would go with the pc for versatility's sake.



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which pc did you have? i get very little vibration on full speed, and only use full speed minimally, another q? what the difference in the 7224 and the 7336, i have the 7336 and have never used any other pc, different counter weights?
 
The one thing I like about the Griots is you can buy the whole system, buffer, pads, polish, etc. If I get the PC I'll have to choose and buy all that seperately. The problem being I read all the reviews and more then one sounds good to me. I can't afford to try different ones until I find the combo that suits me best. At least with Griots I get what I get with it. However if anyone could suggest which pads and polish are the best for a beginner, that would make buying the PC more attractive. Plus as I gain knowledge I'd have a more versitile machine.

My cars have good paint with very minor flaws and swirls.
 
Guy- Permit me a little good-natured :argue if you will :D



You're assuming that the Griot's combo will be a satisfactory solution and not just another combo that might not deliver. Having used both (or is it three?) generations of Griot's stuff (both pads and polish), and fairly extensively (though admittedly not with their current polisher), for me it was unsatisfactory. I ended up regretting all the times I used Griot's instead of the stuff I used before and after; there were/are a lot of approaches I consider much better. IMO I could easily come up with combinations of pads/products that'd be at least as good in every respect as anything Griot's offers, and I'm not one of those people who's tried everything under the sun. It's all personal preference though and again, I'm not *really* :argue just discussing it...



Heh heh, it's funny for me to be sorta-slamming Griot's as I do recommend a lot of their stuff and I give them a lot of business. I'm usually one of the people sticking up for Richard when people are bashing him.



And FWIW their Machine Polish #3 is a decent *very* mild product. Not the most user-friendly stuff, but I still keep a bottle around for those one-in-a-million cases. And Griot's pads are OK if used for the right applications (they do last forever).



VaSuperShine said:
what the difference in the 7224 and the 7336, i have the 7336 and have never used any other pc, different counter weights?
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Only difference is the backing plate and counteweight, one's for 5" the other for 6". Both are inexpensive and easily changed. I have both and having swapped the plates/weights a few times I can't tell whichis which. The people at PC said they're internally identical.
 
Ok then, which pads are the best to get for the PC, and which polish for very mild swirls? I have Zaino and mothers claybar, Pinnacle paint cleaner, Medallion paint cleaner, 3M perfect-it foam polishing glaze, and Blackfire polish and final paint protection.



BTW, thanks for all the answers and advice! This is the most helpful friendly forum I've ever been on! Even with Accumulator's good natured butt chewing!
 
:waxing: Well, I ordered the PC7424 kit from here, I think it's the SXF kit, it should be here late this week. Now I'm all excited to detail my car and truck, which I just did in the last month. But I had a craftsman buffer which I only used to apply the sealant. Now to get rid of those minor swirls!! Thanks for all the advice, I feel like I made an educated wise choice in my purchase! :thx
 
Guy- Sounds like I came across as intended :D Glad you like it here at Autopia.



While I haven't used the SFX stuff, IMO you're still ahead over the Griot's approach. There are a lot of people here who *have* used that line, so if you have any questions/issues I'm sure you'll find answers here.



One bit of advice: do a small area and then inspect it *very* carefully in good lighting conditions. Make sure things are going as intended before you do the whole vehicle ;)
 
One bit of advice: do a small area and then inspect it *very* carefully in good lighting conditions. Make sure things are going as intended before you do the whole vehicle



My daughter has already volunteered her car, the paint is not the best. A good car to start with!
 
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