Griot's Boar's Hair Wash Brushes (LONG)

DuMouixe- My computer didn't like your link, so I can't comment on those brushes. I'd just get the one from Autogeek.



Yeah, you don't want to press hard enough to bend the bristles. Remember that you're pressing on potentially abrasive dirt. You only want enough contact with the vehicle to dislodge the dirt so the suds can carry it away. Hint: use a slick LSP and wash frequently.



ybajwa- The flow-through BHBs were a *huge* disappointment :( I've had, uhm...five IIRC, sent all but one back over leaks or coarse bristles. And they aren't *nearly* as user-friendly as you'd think. Good idea, lousy execution. The foamgun/BHB combo works great so I'm pretty well settled on that for the cars that don't get a different treatment. You really want to move the spray of suds around anyhow (all along the length of the brush so all the bristles get suds), rather than have it come out of a fixed location in the middle of the brush, which is how the flow-throughs do it.



The last Griot's BHBs I got don't come close to comparing to the Autogeek ones. I'm really impressed with the Autogeek BHBs and they're my current recommendation. Sorry if that's a hard-sell :o



The softest BHB I've ever used is still my old one from the early '80s. Got it from Beverly Hills Motoring Accessories (now defunct as best I can tell). I only use it on the S8 and the Jag.
 
Accumulator said:
The last Griot's BHBs I got don't come close to comparing to the Autogeek ones. I'm really impressed with the Autogeek BHBs and they're my current recommendation. Sorry if that's a hard-sell :o



I'll hold off on the flow through brushes, it should almost be as quick just using the foam gun + regular BHB.



I don't mean to bash Griot's, but I took a close look at my Griot's BHB last night (pn 66073) and its already coming apart a bit after only a few uses :(, one of the bundles has completely fallen out, I've noticed quite a few hairs fell out before. I also have their long handle brush (pn 92547), this one is much better and has a lot more glue holding the strands.



I'll definitely consider the Autogeek BHB, thanks.
 
Better a hard sell than no sell at all. Thanks for all the tips. I agree re: flow thrus. my neighbor does his Dark Blue Silverado with a 703P and it works but he stated he should

have spent the money for the flow thru handle towards a foamer and just gotten the standard

brush instead. Then he made me promise not to tell his wife that.



one more interesting site: braun brush company, 3 different head configurations of the

basically same boars hair brush. the W12B looks promising.



http://www.brush.com/cgi-bin/Brush.storefront/4414e89f15b32ba8273fd8968d64073b/Catalog/0702?sub=1



those last links were just egg wash/icing brushes, boars hair, 5 1/4" long, 6 inch handles for $17-$25. less brush, less greenbacks.



https://www.kerekesequip.com/a/egg-wash-icing-brush-1029.htm



http://www.cakedeco.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=753&p_catid=212&page=1
 
auto geek is seeming like a good choice. $10 off if you buy a foaming gun.



backordered on the half gallon foamers, quart size in stock, are those recepticals hard to find.
 
I was linking in to those food service BHB brushes....



saw a couple counter brushes that look similar to what we are using/plan on using on our vehicles.



braunbrush.com



auto geek is seeming like a good choice. $10 off if you buy a foaming gun.



they are backordered on the half gallon foamers, quart size in stock. hmmm....



time to click.
 
OK, now I'm with you. The Braun brushes didn't impress me, but then I was just looking at them on the Braun website.



On the foamgun, I prefer the smaller bottle anyhow. Easier to keep from bumping the panels while spraying through the brush on the horizontal surfaces.
 
Great review and great tips. Thanks. I have the Griot's brush and have used it on and off on my 997 since September. At one point, I thought it was causing light scratching, so I stopped using it and returned to sheepskin mitts, but have gone back to it again because I find it to be more convienent. I do try to rinse frequently, but I may have to return to the mitt.
 
Derf- Welcome to Autopia!



On the Griot's BHB, look it over and make sure its bristles aren't contaminated with the adhesive used to hold them in the handle. I had two that were, and sheesh, talk about scratches! I sure wished I'd checked them before use.



Assuming it's OK in that regard, you could try the CD test. just remember to use the BHB the way you would on the 997- soaking wet with wash solution (the CD too). Inspect the CDa for scratches under harsh lighting and you'll know whether it's the brush or your wash technique that's causing the marring.



That "frequent rinsing" bit touches on the greatest (IMO) risk of the BHB: it's just *so* tempting to do a large area between rinses. My foamgun technique solves that problem, but otherwise you gotta consider that if the BHB picks up some abrasive dirt when moving across the first inch of a panel, it's gonna drag that dirt across the *rest* of the panel with potentially damaging consequences. No, the dirt doesn't migrate up the bristles away from the paint, at least not much/often (sorry to say). Before I started using the foamgun, I had to rinse the BHB out numerous times per panel, which was a royal pain. Less of a pain than polishing out marring though ;) I'd quit using the BHBs until I experimented some more with the foamgun (which took a fair amount of trial-and-error to get all figured out).
 
Accumulator said:
Derf- Welcome to Autopia!



On the Griot's BHB, look it over and make sure its bristles aren't contaminated with the adhesive used to hold them in the handle. I had two that were, and sheesh, talk about scratches! I sure wished I'd checked them before use.



Assuming it's OK in that regard, you could try the CD test. just remember to use the BHB the way you would on the 997- soaking wet with wash solution (the CD too). Inspect the CDa for scratches under harsh lighting and you'll know whether it's the brush or your wash technique that's causing the marring.



That "frequent rinsing" bit touches on the greatest (IMO) risk of the BHB: it's just *so* tempting to do a large area between rinses. My foamgun technique solves that problem, but otherwise you gotta consider that if the BHB picks up some abrasive dirt when moving across the first inch of a panel, it's gonna drag that dirt across the *rest* of the panel with potentially damaging consequences. No, the dirt doesn't migrate up the bristles away from the paint, at least not much/often (sorry to say). Before I started using the foamgun, I had to rinse the BHB out numerous times per panel, which was a royal pain. Less of a pain than polishing out marring though ;) I'd quit using the BHBs until I experimented some more with the foamgun (which took a fair amount of trial-and-error to get all figured out).



Thanks for the welcome and the great tips!
 
http://www.bakedeco.com/nav/search....anufacid=0&pagestart=2&Sortby=&catID=0&price=



not to harp, and obviously, anything I put on my paint is inspected PRIOR to contact.



someone look at these, please.



namely the handles, THE NEW ENGLAND & THE OBLONG STYLE HANDLE VERSION.



brushes.jpg




Would these bristles be as pristine as the auto versions or a bit sloppier?



I like the concept of the handle, but can also see the pitfalls, possibly turning it slightly while you

work without realizing it.



Then the oversize, 'MUNSTERS' handled one, would it seem more ergonomic, or too much handle than the usual one's everyone has?



ONE LAST QUESTION, if given the choice, being purely choise, would the BLACK or NATURAL

bristles be more desirable, I'd think NATURAL, because they'd be easier to inspect.



Or I could just buy one and let you guys know.
 
No way to tell about the bristles until you'e holding the thing in your hand :D



I agree about the light colored bristles being easier to inspect for conataminatin, so all things being equal (maybe a big "if" there though ;) ) then yeah, I'd prefer them too. Not that it's ever been an issue though. Unless you get something weird/nasty like fresh tar on them the bristles will come clean anyhow. You'll be *amazed* at how free-rinsing a BHB is (let alone if used with the foamgun).



I don't like the handles that stick out from the brushes- lousy leverage and anyhow, you can't easily manipulate them the way you oughta (IMO). Remember that the important things are to a) barely touch the bristels against the panels, and b) shoot the foamgun's output through the bristles while gently rocking/jiggling the brush against the panels. Those things are hard enough to do with complete control over the brush and there's no way you'll be able to do them unless you're holding the brush very carefully and with *complete* control (greater control than would be possible with the handles). So the two at the top, with handles, would get a thumbs-down from me.
 
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