GM Turnaround Plan: Buick Super?

I think Buick should build tourers. Better than what they built in the 90s... 9_9



People haulers rooted in bargain creature comforts and cruising. Everything else can take a back seat. There's only been a scant handful of Buicks over the years notworthy in performance, and there's already a true luxury division so Buick shouldn't worry about luxury.



Just pure, straight up convenience and build quality in grand tourers. No pretense of "luxury" this or "Refinement" that.



A small sports-car would be fine, maybe a cousin car to the Cobalt's platform in coupe only form.



The Lacrosse, I feel, is a good step with fresh styling and good milage, (but they should all have the snazzy grill from the Super version).



The Lucern is not an improvement to me...but maybe as a wagon body...



The Enclave visually looks like Blingy Blingy bait to me. Intended target is Lincoln. But other than another GM, where else can you haul 8 people for 32k?
 
Personally I would take a Buick over a Cadillac. The Buick reliably and quality has sky rocketed in the last few years. As for more power, I am all for it, they need to be able to compete with the other luxury brands out there in the same price bracket. More power doesn't always mean worse gas mileage.
 
Whatever Buick can do to sell cars and stay alive for one more year by all means let them go for it.

I personally just can't get over those huge front overhangs. It doesn't jive with the whole performance motive they are trying to push. At the very least the front overhang should match the rear overhang in length. It just makes their cars seem out of proportion, front heavy..........um old :) While other companies are trying to find new and ingenious ways to get those wheels out into the far corners Buick is quite happy with the engine way out in front. Even their SUV's have that illusion that the center of gravity is somewhere forward of the windshield water jets :D
 
velobard said:
....I'm SOOO glad Buick finally got rid of cars like the Park Ave and Roadmaster (which gets my vote for ugliest car of the 90s). ...
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Comon now, they Roadmaster wasnt all that bad lookin..:D





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roadmaster_Tx said:
Comon now, they Roadmaster wasnt all that bad lookin..:D
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Your picture has probably the most flattering view you could have of a Roadmaster. The back of the roofline, especially when they're equipped with the all-too-common partial vinyl top, and the tail end of the car just strike me all wrong. I did once drive a Roadmaster with an LT1 'Vette engine (I was a test driver at GM at the time) and it was a wild ride, scratching the tires from 35, but IMHO someone whacked it with an ugly stick. I also should have nominated the '90s Skylark, the sloped, pointed grille on that didn't exactly work for me either.



Like I said, these are just my personal opinions. Of course, it's a good thing everyone doesn't like the same thing or the world would be a boring place. After all, we couldn't rag on everyone else's preference. ;)
 
I know this has nothing to do with the Buick Super, but someone stated they only liked the GM Pickups, and I agree.. I just purchased a Black 2007 (new body style) Chevy Silverado Crew Cab, and I love it.. First GM product that I have ever owned.. I'm a die hard Ford Fan (major) with a minor in Dodges, so we shall see if this Chevy can change my mind for good.. As I stated, the P/U is Black, so I'll probably have alot of care questions to ask, hope you all don't mind...

Thank You all..

OKieneck:usa
 
velobard said:
I also should have nominated the '90s Skylark, the sloped, pointed grille on that didn't exactly work for me either.
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LOL, that would get my vote, too...although we can't leave the Aztec out!
 
backwash said:
The whole site is a bunch of B.S. The editors have such a hate on for "domestic" manufacturers in general and GM in particular. GM could produce a car that ran on tap water and looked like sex on wheels and those idiots would still hate it.
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Um...I have a GM car in my garage right now, like I have for the last 30 years...and I started this thread...does that make me a GM-hater who is full of BS? The writer and I are both on the same wavelength, apparently. I think I am more of a GM "patriot" who wishes that they would get a clue.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Um...I have a GM car in my garage right now, like I have for the last 30 years...and I started this thread...does that make me a GM-hater who is full of BS? The writer and I are both on the same wavelength, apparently. I think I am more of a GM "patriot" who wishes that they would get a clue.
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No. I said thetruthaboutcars.com is full of B.S. General Motors has made a number of mistakes in the past. Plasticy interiors, stale design, and generally telling the customer what they want. I think that they are really turning it around now. The new epsilon based cars, the GMT 900 trucks, and Cadillac's art and science theme are evidence of this. I have no blind loyalty to GM but it seems that they don't get enough credit for what they are trying to do. Give it 5 more years and we'll see.
 
azenthusiast said:
The only GM products I like are their trucks. The new Sierra HDs are my new dream vehicle lol. And I definitely agree with you on the Buick Super series. It's a novel idea, but Buick's target audience isnt exactly the "spirited driving" type. In fact, I try to stay away from most Buicks I see on the road.
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First of all I am a GM fan all the way. I do have some likes and dislikes about the new Silverados thought. I wish they had gone for a look a little similar to the Tahoe with the painted front end and it. It looks too much like a Titan. Also I have no idea what they were thinking with the paint on the new vehicles (all manufacturers, not just GM). I have never seen a vehicle with as much orange peel as these have. If I bought one, I would definately have to sand it down and re-clear it. I couldn't live with it looking that way. I did talk to a guy a know that works in the body shop at a local Chevrolet dealership and he said that he talked to someone at GM about it and they said that is how they wanted the vehicles to look. Another problem I have with them is on the doors, on every single one, there are waves in them. You can look down the side and the metal is not straight at all. Just seems like everything is getting more expensive and going downhill in the manufacturing department. Honestly the only thing I like about them is the new interior. I think it looks alot better and it was time for a change. The interior in the trucks had been almost the same since '99. Sorry to jack the thread about the new trucks! Just wanted to express my opinion on them.
 
sspeer said:
I think it's gorgeous.



I also love the upcoming Enclave..the interior almost seems Art Deco
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Actually, I'm not putting down the looks, it just struck me how much it resembles the recent BMWs. I think this design would go over quite well in the U.S.
 
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