David Fermani said:
Especially with the ultrafine polishing lambswool pad that in itself has very little cut. This would probably be my last choice of pad for any kind of defect removal IMHO. During your cutting step, you allowed your product to work “extra hard & long� by reviving its cutting action slightly with the Gloss Enhancer spray. This not only gave you extended cutting power, but it also refined your marring. With 105, you did a quick session finding that it left deep RIDS in the finish. Although 105 is indeed intended to be worked quick and fast; it’s recommended to be used with a cutting wool pad to bring out’s it intended potential. I feel that if it’s not mated with the proper cutting pad, the results will not be beneficial; as your test shows. In addition, I agree that UF doesn’t create lots of added gloss. It’s not created to. It intended purpose (per 3M) is to eliminate swirls after a “middle polish� is used. It’s not to be used to correct primary/initial wool pad marring. I personally like to use it as a very last (~final) step to insure any unforeseen swirls/imperfections that could *maybe* appear in the future after prior final polishing steps will be worked out for good. I also don’t feel it’s imperative to work this product for long periods. You can, but you don’t really need to.
I would love to see the comparison of Gloss-It Extreme Cut to Meg’s 105 used with a twisted wool cutting pad. I’m certain that the results of the removal of the defects will certainly be different. This however will most certainly require *at least* a 3 step process for the latter. It sounds like Gloss-It is a great product for decent 2 step corrections. I’d like to try it out and see for myself. I’m also very leery to believe that if you used their system with a cutting wool pad and finished with a semi-finishing foam pad (EDGE blue) that the finish will be 100%.
I do agree that pad selection is very important when removing deep paint imperfections. I also think DSMS was only trying to demonstrate as close as possible how the gloss it paint corrections perform vs the leading paint correction products. I know it seems bias, but the process really works and given there will always be the paint correction job that will not work identical to the product, process and pad application that was last used, no matter who’s product you polish with.
You mention going to a different wool pad for a fair comparison to show true paint correction of the M105 to be fair. I will tell you that you’re right, 3 steps will be needed to truly correct with a more aggressive wool pad which in return will cause much deeper RIDS, and a finer cut and lite cutting pad will be required .
My goal when developing this 2 step process was to come up with hi speed application with product, process & product combination that would have enough cut to remove the paint imperfections with out leaving a heavy RID / coarse swirl behind. I like the lambs wool because its offers the right amount of bite without leaving super coarse swirls & scratches. The gloss enhancer does give the ability to help reduce the RIDS while jeweling the extreme cut and the one step.
( not available on the website, pm for order info ) One thing to note. Leaving the hood in the sun to determine whether the RIDS would re-appear. A heat gun test will determine by getting the clear-coat hot if there is any filling going on. We have performed this test and can ensure the RIDS will not appear. We are well aware of what Todd was referring too. The gloss it headquarters is located in the hot bed of America where the ambient temperature on a dark color car can reach 180 to 200 degree’s.
I too was like many detailers who searched for the perfect paint correction products. I bought various products from 100’s of different companies to produce the perfect detail. This was frustrating, and confusing to run a detail operation and train a staff what to use and not to use. This made for a very bad system, which led me to develop my own detail line. My goal was to develop a complete line of products that performed well across the board, a ONE STOP SHOP. I spent years learning and testing various types of abrasives and chemicals. I studied many good products and took the strengths and learned from the weakness and built my own technology. This process was not overnight and was the evolution of many thousands of hours of testing and tweaking to arrive at the finish product. Gloss it continues to test and evaluate new products and learns from our own testing and feedback from other professionals. This is why we call gloss it an evolution in appearance products.
I do think that both the M105 and Ultrafina are good products that offer good options
for paint correction. But what happens when a company produces a complete tool chest of consistent and great performing products? You will only know once you test and evaluate yourself. Please visit
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Rich Light Founder / Owner / Chief Detailer
